Heads up! The Garmin Enduro 3 is down to $829, some $70 off. That’s the lowest price to date on this new device. The Enduro 3 is notable though because it’s basically a Fenix 8 Solar minus the dive/voice features (and the Fenix 8 Solar/MIP starts at $1,099). Everything else is there, and it gets all Fenix 8 software features (and, insane battery life). Meanwhile, the Fenix 7 down to $429!
The Week in Review is a collection of both all the goodness I’ve written during the past week around the internet, as well as a small pile of links I found interesting – generally endurance sports related. I’ve often wondered what to do with all of the coolness that people write, and while I share a lot of it on Twitter/X and Facebook, this is a better forum for sending it on to y’all. Most times these different streams don’t overlap, so be on the lookout at all these places for good stuff!
So with that, let’s get into the action!
DCR Posts In The Past Week:
Ebb and flow, quiet week this week in preparation for a busier week next week.
Here’s what hit the tubes over on the You of Tube; definitely don’t forget to subscribe there to get notified of videos the second they hit!
Sports Tech Deals:
Companies are starting to announce their Black Friday deals, which will basically stay the same through the holiday period. I’ve been working to add them in as they get announced. In general, for most companies, if they announce sales now, won’t introduce lower prices on Black Friday for those same exact models/products, as it annoys the @#$@# out of retailers, who have to deal with price credits or returns. Stuff like the Amazon-driven sales of the Garmin Epix though, are wildcards, because that’s not really Garmin’s sale, but Amazon controlling that particular product as it’s not under Garmin’s MAP policy anymore (minimum advertised price).
The lowest price to date for the Enduro 3, whcih is basically the 'cheaper' Garmin Fenix 8 with a MIP/Solar display (but without the scuba or voice calling features). It gets all the Fenix 8 features and updates otherwise.
This is actually the lowest price I think I've got on record for the Garmin Fenix 7. It got virtually all new Fenix 7 Pro features until this past fall, and even this past week is still getting some new features. A very soild deal.
This is the first time we've actually seen any discount on the Garmin Fenix 8. And while it's not a huge discount relative to the price, it does buy you a bunch of extra ice cream or something.
This has been one of Garmin's most popular running watches, and it's down to a very strong price. I often use this in my accuracy testing comparisons when validating other watches, due to it's very strong GPS performance. Note this is the base edition without solar. It'd be hard to find any better deal in sports watches today, from any company (given this has full mapping, tons of new features even this week, etc...). I say '$100ish', because it's usually been on forever sale at $499.
I use this scale, merely for the weight tracking functions (not body fat). It works just fine for that piece, and integrates with the rest of your Garmin data. If you aren't in the Garmin ecosystem, there's plenty of cheaper options.
Not quite as good as the $299 back during the holidays, but this is likely the new-normal sale price. And hey, it's still a very solid camera and my preference for day-time footage (at night, I use the Insta360 Ace Pro 2).
⚡ This has become one of my favorite drones, given it's tiny size (fits in my running shorts pockets) and ease of use. While there's the new Pro-Max drones, those are basically 2x+ the price, and honestly, the video quality isn't really achieving that price point. ***Note: Select the '$100 coupon' checkbox on the site.*** Also, you can select yet another extra battery as an option below that checkbox.
This price has continued to stay low since Black Friday, still a very solid deal for one of the best WearOS watches out there.
Stuff I Found Interesting Around The Interwebs:
Here’s a not-so-small smattering of all the random things that I stumbled on while doing my civic duty to find the end of the Internet:
1) Zwift Announces Mallorca April 2025 In-Person Community Event:Called ‘Zwift Community Live’, this event is being held in Mallorca and will bring in various Zwift employees, including CEO Eric Min, as well as other high-profile guests from within Zwift, and outside of Zwift. It sounds like Zwift eventually wants to grow this new annual event quite large. Obviously, that portion of the island has amazing riding, and the event is focused on outdoor riding.
2) Peloton Members get 20% off Google Fitness Devices: Of course, I’d fully suspect the Google Pixel Watch 3 will get a 20% off discount during Black Friday anyway, and the Fitbit Charge 6 got a far greater discount the last few days (see above).
3) Sony Discontinues Airpeak S1 drone: In a move that surprises exactly nobody, Sony has discontinued their drone attempt. While the drone was super interesting (theoretically) for Sony camera owners, it ultimately lagged so far behind the competitors in features, that it just wasn’t worth the effort or cost. In many ways, it was kinda like when GoPro tried to compete with DJI all those years ago (or even Skydio’s consumer drones, setting aside tracking).
4) The Pros Closet Rises Again: After auctioning off everything (that auction was crazy-pants cool full of goodness if you wanted bike stuffs), some existing employees bought out the remaining digital assets and plan to bring it back to its full glory. Disclosure: TPC sponsored various videos and FIT File podcast episodes, though, I haven’t heard from them since the closure…and frankly, they still have outstanding bills. Nonetheless, I think there’s clearly still a market for used bikes that have been professionally vetted.
5) Apple adds ability to share AirTag location with airline (or anyone): This could be super interesting, assuming airlines care to find bike boxes. As one who has an AirTag always in my bike case, and a bike case that seems to need its AirTag friend more often than not, this might be handy…again, if airlines make an effort to leverage it.
6) Breakdown of power meters from Kona 2024: Looks like this data was captured after all. Though, would love to see the exact unit numbers (quantities) to see how many users in the field had power. The shift from Garmin pedals to Favero pedals makes sense, as the market clearly shows that a solid product at roughly half the price is simply logical. Though, I’m far more surprised at the Quarq side of things 2x-3x’ing. Obviously, Quarq makes great power meters, but that’s a massive YoY jump in the field.
I find it interesting how Zwift and earlier Rouvy has acknowledged that “outdoor” cycling is a good thing and that their products can help you to enjoy or enhance your outdoor riding experience. Previously (to me anyway) it seemed the indoor cycling apps wanted nothing to do with the outdoor experience.
I guess they realize it’s better to expand their audience in any way.
Yeah, I think to a degree they all always said outdoors played a part in it, but I agree they seem to be embracing aspects of that better than in the past.
The $399 deal on Amazon Prime Days for the Epix Gen 2 was for the white titanium sapphire model with dual band GPS, not the standard. There seems to be a lot of these, as I’m seeing a number of authorized sellers offering them for under $500. Interesting, I see one seller already discounting the Fenix E at $689.
I, too remember this as being the white titanium version.
The Wayback machine: link to web.archive.org
Also matches this – the picture is of the white model, the link is to the same white titanium model, (currently at 450).
At the time, I tried for the black titanium model, and it was not on sale at the time – nor is it now.
It was the Apple Watch Ultra that was the black titanium model.
Since I missed out on it, I’m kind of bummed that it’s now an extra $50 higher, and that none of the other models appear to be on sale again. :(
As for Amazon doing Amazon changing the price…I suspect that’s what keeps getting you back to Amazon’s page to buy some kitchen spatula you didn’t think you needed till Amazon suggested it.
Sure, I recognize that it’s a bit of a ploy to upsell, but it seem counter to the whole “be stably priced so sellers don’t have to deal with credits and returns” that you mention at the top.
I guess maybe I can’t tell the difference between the seller deal and the Amazon deal, but it seems like thrash either way.
Mallorca…, Mallorca…, where have I heard that place name recently?… 🤔 😉
Interesting news about TPC. Looking at the ungodly amount of stuff in that auction my initial thought is no wonder they went out of biz. And the level of “investment” debt (~$80M!) for a “used bike reseller” is bonkers.
I’m not thrilled about TPC returning. Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham. And some people made a lot of money gobbling up used bikes to flip to TPC at absurd prices, and then TPC jacked them up even more. It’s difficult to say the average bike user really benefitted. And the statement in the article that their new attempt at a dealer trade-in program “provides value to dealer” suggests dealers will be paid more, which means more markup for end buyer.
I don’t see how wholesale commercialization of the used bike market into corporate hands is a good thing for the average cyclist. I think anyone shopping for a used bike in local markets knows firsthand the effect it had. But it will be interesting to see how v2 unfolds.
Having been to their facility a few times, they definitely had a lot of stuff. But essentially you have to divide that into two buckets:
A) Typical bike shop repair bench stuff
B) Stuff they were trying to sell to consumers (e.g. parts/etc…)
For the bike shop repair bits, that was all pretty much normal stuff to be expected for having dozens of high end bike mechanics on staff servicing boatloads of high-end bikes (since, most of these were high-end bikes). So that’s not really what got them in trouble.
The warehouse space was massive, obviously, and certainly, that contributed a lot. Looking at similar space costs in the area, for 265,000sq ft, we’re talking the $3M/year range. Which is nuts.
“Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham”
Not sure about that, but certainly not what I saw when I visited there. In fact, their processes were far beyond what you’d see at most bike shops. Obviously, you’re going to see exceptions at either end of the bike shop spectrum, but on the whole, I’d say the servicing level of TPC was beyond that of your average LBS.
Again though, the ‘problem’ was the prices they were willing to buy bikes at wasn’t going to make money once they accounted for how much money they put into bikes. That’s the piece most people didn’t really understand. TPC didn’t just wash the bike, add some lube, and call it done. They almost always swapped out well-used parts/etc… to increase the resale value. That costed real money, as they were almost always brand-new parts. And then ultimately, the cost the final consumer bought for it, just didn’t leave a ton of margin.
There’s still absolutely a huge market for this. After all, TPC was a tiny drop in the bucket for used bike sales in the US. At roughly 1,000/bikes in inventory at any point in time, we’re only talking taking 20/bikes per US state. That’s nothing. A few bike shops in a random town are going to have 2-4 bikes each on-hand that might be lightly used.
Of course, as always, whenever you add VC or private equity, things often go wrong…and ultimately, that’s what happened here s well. Remember, TPC was around for like 20 years.
>>”“Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham””
>”Not sure about that, but certainly not what I saw when I visited there. In fact, their processes were far beyond what you’d see at most bike shops. Obviously, you’re going to see exceptions at either end of the bike shop spectrum, but on the whole, I’d say the servicing level of TPC was beyond that of your average LBS.”
I’m just going by some of the many threads I read after the closure news broke, particularly on reddit (sent you a link to one back then). Obviously take with a grain of salt but there certainly seems to be enough there from insiders and especially customers that all was not well, moreso in recent years.
>”Of course, as always, whenever you add VC or private equity, things often go wrong…and ultimately, that’s what happened here s well.”
^^^ This. Surfaces in those threads a lot.
Don’t get me wrong, I was really excited when I first discovered TPC (thru your coverage actually) and I checked their listings regularly. One of the biggest appeals was the claimed verification of carbon frames, which is always a big hesitation with used bikes (and let’s be honest they leveraged that as part of their value pitch). I communicated directly with them about their inspection methods, the equipment they used, their damage detection rates, etc. and was considering sending my frame there because proper NDT inspection services are really hard to find. (Theirs wasn’t terrifically sophisticated, but certainly better than tapping a coin. And when they were closing I considered offering to buy their NDT equipment…, it sold in the auction.)
But for purchasing a bike, the value just wasn’t there, and no surprise with buying up used bikes at insanely inflated prices and then marking them up even more. Up until the closure “sale” hit I was still seeing prices above original sale prices.
A service needs to offer real value for bike buyers first and foremost, and not just value to investors. (And that value can’t just be “we offer bikes you can’t find locally… because we bought those up at inflated prices”.) They would need to up their inspection game, address the surprising complaints (at least from the most recent years), and the price distortion. Yes that means no longer throwing thousands at your 10-yr old tradein you found in your uncle’s garage, sorry everyone lol. But that also translates into more appropriate market pricing that reflects the actual value they add to the bike for the buyer.
I do want to see something like this succeed, provided it *increases* options in the used market, not reduces them in favour of commercial profit.
I suspect they have quite of bit of reputational / confidence repair to do now as well. Will be interesting to see if they keep the name.
Yeah, it’s always hard to tell with the internet, but I’d say that short of pile-on type scenarios, I heard virtually no negative feedback on TPC. Actually, literally none came into my inbox that I can remember.
As for the naming, I agree, but for different reasons. I don’t think TPC as a name helped at all. The change from “The Pros Closet” to TPC I think is actually a part of the failure. So much so that I always kept a graphic I made myself that had both “TPC” and “The Pros Closet” stacked atop each other.
Nobody except industry bike geeks knows what the heck TPC is. It’s just three random letters. The Pros Closet at least brought in some intrigue, enough for people to click on. And the name of the game in marketing is getting people to click. If people see TPC and can’t possibly see how a TLA is going to have reputable bike stuff, then they won’t click.
Please do a better power meter stats page as that linked page is terrible. A graph that seems to compare different years but also swaps and compare women’s for one year and men the other.
Then a pointless pie chart (all pie charts are terrible. This is more terrible).
And.. no, I just don’t trust it having looked at it
Generally speaking, yes. About the only exception being:
A) You plan to purchase the Wahoo KICKR CLIMB (only compatible with CORE)
B) You didn’t pre-order and need the trainer immediately (since JetBlack Victory timeline for newly placed orders is like late December I think now).
Hey Ray,
Not sure if you have seen that Zwift are offering 10% off the ride, kickr core and the bundle with code CYCLINGZ10 for their 10 year anniversary. This is available in the UK, US and EU.
At what point do we expect the majority of Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals to stop rolling in? I’d love to make a decision earlier, but would also hate to have to deal with the changes if I should have waited a few more days.
I would guess sometime around Black Friday or Cyber Monday, and even then some of the deals might continue past that date. The small premium you pay now in the event that a price drops below a current sale price is basically an insurance fee, as some items may run out of sale inventory if the deal is good. If you are buying something reliable that you need, it’s going to last long enough that an extra $20 or $50 shouldn’t hold up your decision too much.
> In general, for most companies, if they announce sales now, won’t introduce lower prices on Black Friday for those same exact models/products, as it annoys the @#$@# out of retailers, who have to deal with price credits or returns.
It sounds like the “saving an extra 20-50” is the least likely of the things to change.
Thus why I’m asking if there’s a time range for those early deal announcements. Or if companies (like Garmin) might announce deals for some items now, and then add in other products only on Black Friday.
Garmin tends to go-live usually around this week each year, typically later in the week, but we’ll see.
Generally speaking Garmin announces all their deals as-is at this time, for the holiday season. Any subsequent deals for Black Friday specifically, are either retailer driven (if in Europe), or non-MAP deals if in the US (e.g. older products Garmin has taken off of restricted MAP pricing, and then companies can go wild). Uncle Amazon’s Epix deals fall into that category.
I don’t have an exact list of which products are on MAP (and Garmin certainly wouldn’t say it), but generally speaking it’s anything other than current gen. I believe Fenix/Epix Pro are still MAP though.
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I find it interesting how Zwift and earlier Rouvy has acknowledged that “outdoor” cycling is a good thing and that their products can help you to enjoy or enhance your outdoor riding experience. Previously (to me anyway) it seemed the indoor cycling apps wanted nothing to do with the outdoor experience.
I guess they realize it’s better to expand their audience in any way.
Yeah, I think to a degree they all always said outdoors played a part in it, but I agree they seem to be embracing aspects of that better than in the past.
The $399 deal on Amazon Prime Days for the Epix Gen 2 was for the white titanium sapphire model with dual band GPS, not the standard. There seems to be a lot of these, as I’m seeing a number of authorized sellers offering them for under $500. Interesting, I see one seller already discounting the Fenix E at $689.
Interestingly, the records I had showed it was black titanium/sapphire. Didn’t see they also offered white.
I, too remember this as being the white titanium version.
The Wayback machine: link to web.archive.org
Also matches this – the picture is of the white model, the link is to the same white titanium model, (currently at 450).
At the time, I tried for the black titanium model, and it was not on sale at the time – nor is it now.
It was the Apple Watch Ultra that was the black titanium model.
Since I missed out on it, I’m kind of bummed that it’s now an extra $50 higher, and that none of the other models appear to be on sale again. :(
Ugh, and now it’s at 500 today. I’m unclear why they can’t just leave the price alone for a bit.
Nice, internet archive for the win!
As for Amazon doing Amazon changing the price…I suspect that’s what keeps getting you back to Amazon’s page to buy some kitchen spatula you didn’t think you needed till Amazon suggested it.
Sure, I recognize that it’s a bit of a ploy to upsell, but it seem counter to the whole “be stably priced so sellers don’t have to deal with credits and returns” that you mention at the top.
I guess maybe I can’t tell the difference between the seller deal and the Amazon deal, but it seems like thrash either way.
Mallorca…, Mallorca…, where have I heard that place name recently?… 🤔 😉
Interesting news about TPC. Looking at the ungodly amount of stuff in that auction my initial thought is no wonder they went out of biz. And the level of “investment” debt (~$80M!) for a “used bike reseller” is bonkers.
I’m not thrilled about TPC returning. Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham. And some people made a lot of money gobbling up used bikes to flip to TPC at absurd prices, and then TPC jacked them up even more. It’s difficult to say the average bike user really benefitted. And the statement in the article that their new attempt at a dealer trade-in program “provides value to dealer” suggests dealers will be paid more, which means more markup for end buyer.
I don’t see how wholesale commercialization of the used bike market into corporate hands is a good thing for the average cyclist. I think anyone shopping for a used bike in local markets knows firsthand the effect it had. But it will be interesting to see how v2 unfolds.
Having been to their facility a few times, they definitely had a lot of stuff. But essentially you have to divide that into two buckets:
A) Typical bike shop repair bench stuff
B) Stuff they were trying to sell to consumers (e.g. parts/etc…)
For the bike shop repair bits, that was all pretty much normal stuff to be expected for having dozens of high end bike mechanics on staff servicing boatloads of high-end bikes (since, most of these were high-end bikes). So that’s not really what got them in trouble.
The warehouse space was massive, obviously, and certainly, that contributed a lot. Looking at similar space costs in the area, for 265,000sq ft, we’re talking the $3M/year range. Which is nuts.
“Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham”
Not sure about that, but certainly not what I saw when I visited there. In fact, their processes were far beyond what you’d see at most bike shops. Obviously, you’re going to see exceptions at either end of the bike shop spectrum, but on the whole, I’d say the servicing level of TPC was beyond that of your average LBS.
Again though, the ‘problem’ was the prices they were willing to buy bikes at wasn’t going to make money once they accounted for how much money they put into bikes. That’s the piece most people didn’t really understand. TPC didn’t just wash the bike, add some lube, and call it done. They almost always swapped out well-used parts/etc… to increase the resale value. That costed real money, as they were almost always brand-new parts. And then ultimately, the cost the final consumer bought for it, just didn’t leave a ton of margin.
There’s still absolutely a huge market for this. After all, TPC was a tiny drop in the bucket for used bike sales in the US. At roughly 1,000/bikes in inventory at any point in time, we’re only talking taking 20/bikes per US state. That’s nothing. A few bike shops in a random town are going to have 2-4 bikes each on-hand that might be lightly used.
Of course, as always, whenever you add VC or private equity, things often go wrong…and ultimately, that’s what happened here s well. Remember, TPC was around for like 20 years.
>>”“Read many insider and customer comments that their “professional vetting” of bikes was a joke/sham””
>”Not sure about that, but certainly not what I saw when I visited there. In fact, their processes were far beyond what you’d see at most bike shops. Obviously, you’re going to see exceptions at either end of the bike shop spectrum, but on the whole, I’d say the servicing level of TPC was beyond that of your average LBS.”
I’m just going by some of the many threads I read after the closure news broke, particularly on reddit (sent you a link to one back then). Obviously take with a grain of salt but there certainly seems to be enough there from insiders and especially customers that all was not well, moreso in recent years.
>”Of course, as always, whenever you add VC or private equity, things often go wrong…and ultimately, that’s what happened here s well.”
^^^ This. Surfaces in those threads a lot.
Don’t get me wrong, I was really excited when I first discovered TPC (thru your coverage actually) and I checked their listings regularly. One of the biggest appeals was the claimed verification of carbon frames, which is always a big hesitation with used bikes (and let’s be honest they leveraged that as part of their value pitch). I communicated directly with them about their inspection methods, the equipment they used, their damage detection rates, etc. and was considering sending my frame there because proper NDT inspection services are really hard to find. (Theirs wasn’t terrifically sophisticated, but certainly better than tapping a coin. And when they were closing I considered offering to buy their NDT equipment…, it sold in the auction.)
But for purchasing a bike, the value just wasn’t there, and no surprise with buying up used bikes at insanely inflated prices and then marking them up even more. Up until the closure “sale” hit I was still seeing prices above original sale prices.
A service needs to offer real value for bike buyers first and foremost, and not just value to investors. (And that value can’t just be “we offer bikes you can’t find locally… because we bought those up at inflated prices”.) They would need to up their inspection game, address the surprising complaints (at least from the most recent years), and the price distortion. Yes that means no longer throwing thousands at your 10-yr old tradein you found in your uncle’s garage, sorry everyone lol. But that also translates into more appropriate market pricing that reflects the actual value they add to the bike for the buyer.
I do want to see something like this succeed, provided it *increases* options in the used market, not reduces them in favour of commercial profit.
I suspect they have quite of bit of reputational / confidence repair to do now as well. Will be interesting to see if they keep the name.
Yeah, it’s always hard to tell with the internet, but I’d say that short of pile-on type scenarios, I heard virtually no negative feedback on TPC. Actually, literally none came into my inbox that I can remember.
As for the naming, I agree, but for different reasons. I don’t think TPC as a name helped at all. The change from “The Pros Closet” to TPC I think is actually a part of the failure. So much so that I always kept a graphic I made myself that had both “TPC” and “The Pros Closet” stacked atop each other.
Nobody except industry bike geeks knows what the heck TPC is. It’s just three random letters. The Pros Closet at least brought in some intrigue, enough for people to click on. And the name of the game in marketing is getting people to click. If people see TPC and can’t possibly see how a TLA is going to have reputable bike stuff, then they won’t click.
Oh wow I didn’t even realize they were using “TPC” as the name! I always called it “The Pros’ Closet” but TPC for short.
Please do a better power meter stats page as that linked page is terrible. A graph that seems to compare different years but also swaps and compare women’s for one year and men the other.
Then a pointless pie chart (all pie charts are terrible. This is more terrible).
And.. no, I just don’t trust it having looked at it
Unfortunately as noted, they don’t list the exact numbers as was usually the case in past years (allowing me more flexibility/analysis potential).
I had assumed that they were comparing Nice 2023 to Kona 2024, but, if not, yeah, that would explain the wild swings.
For a first time smart trainer purchaser, would you recommend the JB Victory over the Kickr Core with Zwift Play bundle?
Generally speaking, yes. About the only exception being:
A) You plan to purchase the Wahoo KICKR CLIMB (only compatible with CORE)
B) You didn’t pre-order and need the trainer immediately (since JetBlack Victory timeline for newly placed orders is like late December I think now).
Hey Ray,
Not sure if you have seen that Zwift are offering 10% off the ride, kickr core and the bundle with code CYCLINGZ10 for their 10 year anniversary. This is available in the UK, US and EU.
At what point do we expect the majority of Black Friday/Cyber Monday deals to stop rolling in? I’d love to make a decision earlier, but would also hate to have to deal with the changes if I should have waited a few more days.
I would guess sometime around Black Friday or Cyber Monday, and even then some of the deals might continue past that date. The small premium you pay now in the event that a price drops below a current sale price is basically an insurance fee, as some items may run out of sale inventory if the deal is good. If you are buying something reliable that you need, it’s going to last long enough that an extra $20 or $50 shouldn’t hold up your decision too much.
I’m specifically referring to Ray’s comment:
> In general, for most companies, if they announce sales now, won’t introduce lower prices on Black Friday for those same exact models/products, as it annoys the @#$@# out of retailers, who have to deal with price credits or returns.
It sounds like the “saving an extra 20-50” is the least likely of the things to change.
Thus why I’m asking if there’s a time range for those early deal announcements. Or if companies (like Garmin) might announce deals for some items now, and then add in other products only on Black Friday.
Garmin tends to go-live usually around this week each year, typically later in the week, but we’ll see.
Generally speaking Garmin announces all their deals as-is at this time, for the holiday season. Any subsequent deals for Black Friday specifically, are either retailer driven (if in Europe), or non-MAP deals if in the US (e.g. older products Garmin has taken off of restricted MAP pricing, and then companies can go wild). Uncle Amazon’s Epix deals fall into that category.
I don’t have an exact list of which products are on MAP (and Garmin certainly wouldn’t say it), but generally speaking it’s anything other than current gen. I believe Fenix/Epix Pro are still MAP though.
Great, thanks! That makes a lot of sense, and was seeing pricing for the Epix/Fenix 7 Pro as pretty stable vs the previous models.
Also, feel free to the duplicate message below (about the $500 price for the Epix) that got double-sent.
Ugh, and now it’s at 500 today. I’m unclear why they can’t just leave the price alone for a bit.