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I use GoPros in waterproof cases for SCUBA diving. I’d be worried about overheating to this degree, specifically about the effects of the air in the housing expanding sufficiently to distort the case enough to allow water in. In theory, if the case can handle water pressure at depths of up to 60m then it shouldn’t be an issue, but I’d think the case would be designed against a net internal underpressure, not an overpressure which could occur close to the surface.
The GoPro scuba case (the one I used in the video) handles up to 60m depths, and based on what I saw in measuring the temps of the units, the Hero 9 and Hero 10 are actually incredibly similar in that regard (e.g. both hitting about 115-120*F on the sides. So my guess is no meaningful difference to what people are seeing in the scuba case today at depth on the Hero 9.
Any thoughts on the effects of different memory cards? My occasional experiences with overheating coincide with my using older cards of questionable performance. I’ve wanted to eventually revisit the issue, and test separate types/brands of micro SD cards. I’m often surprised by the heat generated when I simply copy files to a computer.
Yeah, I can virtually guarantee you it’s impacted by memory cards. It was just sorta one of those things (along with countless other options/settings) that was going to make me testing overheating a full time job. :)
That said, funny aside that I had in the video but ended up cutting out at the last second – but Insta360 quietly changed their overheating warning about a year ago. This was on the Insta360 One R especially, but it used to overheat relatively easily. They made a firmware improvement to make it slightly more difficult, but as part of that that also changed the wording so no such overheating warning actually ever occurs. Instead, it’ll tell you that the SD cards are too slow.
I actually did a few tests with this – including putting in high-end brand new cards that the unit otherwise is more than happy to record the highest possible settings on. But around the 30-33 minute marker, as the camera reaches the same top-temps as GoPro, it’ll throw out the fake-SD card too slow message and shut down. Obviously at that point it’s well past buffering the content, and thus there’s definitely not an actual SD card issue. It simply got too hot.
(It also helps there’s a fair number of folks on Reddit that observed the same too.)
Your work helps us understand the overheating variables better, giving us all a little more control. Thanks for that. I had similar overheating with the Insta360 ONE X2. While running, I thought I saw an overheating message on at least two occasions, which I chalked up to the hot summer sun. The message was brief, so I wasn’t exactly sure what I saw on the tiny display. Weeks later, I saw a memory-too-slow message, so I switched to a major brand’s V30 card, and my ONE X2 hasn’t stopped since.
I’ve installed v1.16 which addresses the heating issue, but have never encountered it. However, running two different SanDisk Extreme Plus 128gb cards I get intermittent SD errors. This started with v1.15. Your mention of SD cards and their quality intrigues me.
Don’t have a GoPro, don’t want a GoPro, but this is a really cool experiment and post. I love this type of consumer real world testing.
Thanks for doing this.
Thanks – appreciate it!
DC Rainmaker: sorry for an off-topic: “Do you have a plan for Supersapiens(supersapiens.com) sensors/energy band review?”
Yup! I used it for a month or so this past summer.
And then any moment now (like, literally, I think it’s coming in the next few hours), the new band will show up and I’ll resume my usage/testing. So my guess is probably a couple weeks out for a final review.
There is definitively a big issue with the Hero10 compare to the Hero 8 for example. I went out for a test myself with the exact same settings at 4k60fsWide for a nice MTB ride outside in a nice 28 degree weather here in California, after 32min the Hero 10 shutdown and never came back to life, while the 8 continued for the whole 2 hours ride. I never had one overheating issue with the 8 and I had some 40 degree weather day while filming on the bike for 3-4 hours straight.
Bottom line GoPro has a deficient product and forgot to do basic testing before rolling out, and they now need to address this issue very quickly. At this point I will return my Hero10 as this is a useless camera if it can not work in basic riding conditions.
One thing I’d note is to ensure/know whether or not the Hero 10 actually shut down due to overheating, or for some other factor (whether or not that factor is reasonable is a different question). I’d be heavily surprised if in 28*C weather at 4K60 wide on a bike going somewhere it’d overheat in a mere 30 mins.
It only flashes the camera too hot message for less than a second, and there’s no way to know otherwise.
I have not watched the video yet but will later today, however, the spreadsheet alone tells a very sad story! How could the unit possibly be released with issues like that?
Interesting. I got my Hero10 a couple of days ago. I plugged it into the USB to flash the firmware, and charge the first battery.
When I came back a couple of hours later this Hero10 was very hot to the touch.
The screen also displayed a nastygram about not using 3rd party batteries.
Charging the 2nd GoPro offical battery did not have this heating issue.
So I thought this was a one time event. I am usually able to find, or create, the other side of 6 Sigma events. 6 Sigma is 99.9999% reliable – also called 6 nines reliable. Which means that there is still a 0.0001% failure. And I am often standing in the middle of those smoking craters. grin
Thanks for doing this. I also noticed the huge increase in recording time when the door is open with the battery is removed (using external power bank).
I use a power bank anyways because I got my GoPro to record long flights (I fly light airplanes for fun). I always connect the GoPro to a power bank anyways because I typically record longer than the battery life anyways.
With the battery removed, I was able to record 4k 60 FPS until the SD card was full (about 8 hours), so removing the battery makes a huge difference.
Would be interesting to see more detailed tests with the battery removed.
Is recording without a battery from a powerbank hassle-free? I need recordings longer than 10-15 hours
I just asked that question in the comments, id be real interested in getting a hero 10 but being put off by all the overheating issues.
I’m wondering will it record outdoors with the accessory from gopro the pass through door, with the battery removed and using external power on the higher frame rates and resolutions without overheating problems. Id really want or need it to record in 5k 60, 4k 120 until a cards full without overheating.
Ray, Thanks for the video. I (mis)use my go-pros to shoot full baseball games without stopping for upwards of 2-hours. I have no other options as a coach because I can’t fiddle around with a camera or take my phone out in the middle of a game. The remotes disconnect when I get to the dug-out.
My 9 shuts down at 4K60 if it’s over 80 in the sun. The 10 lasts about 10 minutes. My 5 at 4K30 has never shut down, even when it’s 100. When it’s hot, I just put up two cameras and look like a crazy person. The problem with the 5 is that the footage is just not that great. I use an external battery with every feature disabled and the top of the line, biggest SD cards, wiped and reformatted for every game.
Do you have any thoughts on the differences between models and do you know if there is any model that will shoot 4K60 that is better at not overheating than the 9 or 10, or is 60fps the real culprit?
Yeah, that’s going to be tough. Mainly at 60FPS.
I’d guess I’d ask how critical the 60FPS piece is, versus 30FPS. While 60FPS would allow you a bit better slow-mo replay than 30FPS, as a baseball fan and GoPro user, you’re likely not really going to get too many scenarios with the non-close-up lens of the GoPro mounted somewhere that would produce a very exciting slow-mo snippet from a post far away.
Don’t get me wrong, there will probably be the few moments in a season where slowing it down with 60FPS will be handy. But if it were me, I’d just go with a ‘known good’ of 30FPS.
Do you know does the camera still overheat at maximum frame rate/resolution if the battery is removed and using the power through door accessory with an external battery pack. The overheating is putting me off buying one and can’t find an answer to the question. I’d assume a lot of the heat is from the high battery usage so removing the battery should unless I’m wrong should possibly resolve the heating issue.
I’d really appreciate if you could test even if you don’t want to purchase the accessory door from gopro if you just covered the hole that the door covers and remove the battery and hook up a usb-c to test.
There are numerous reports of some other manufacturer’s dive housing buttons jamming below 70ft. Any info about whether GoPro housings have the same problem?
Do you have any info yet re: GoPro 11 and the enduro battery and overheating?