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Can this plan be used by the ELEMNT to control the KICKR? Or just for outdoors rides?
Yup, indoor rides too! In fact, I did the photos indoors controlling a KICKR. :)
Cool. Thx!
Thanks for the heada up…. Wahoo should also pair with Sufferfest programs following this same line… any thoughts!
That’s really up to Sufferfest to work on providing that kind of integration. With Garmin, there’s an API which makes it more straighforward – would be a good start if Sufferfest too wants to create outside workouts.
What about a Lama icon?
I think Shane replaced his with a magpie icon
link to youtube.com
This is so awesome. Now, they just have to add the ability to put a bunch of icons in that folder and let the device choose one randomly ;-)
Why is the TR phone app a better experience? I’ve got no issue using my phone for indoor rides, but the idea of just being able to use my Elemnt for rides inside & out is quite appealing. Does it still have the instructions/text that you get on the phone/laptop apps? Cheers
Does this mean the Roam is pretty solidly on the buy list? You weren’t too kind to it previously.
My 9 month old 520 Plus battery life is down to ~6 hours using navigation, even using all of the recommended battery saving settings and BT off. A solution that doesn’t involve giving Garmin more money and allows for the occasional long ride would be fantastic.
I thank Ray’s biggest issue was that the Roam’s higher price wasn’t justified. Feature-wise it is on par with the 530 (though the 530 has a couple things the Roam doesn’t). But at $380 vs. $300, that is a premium you aren’t necessarily seeing in the Roam.
I have an ELEMNT that I like a lot. Hoping for some Black Friday or Christmas deals on the Roam.
To me the ROAM value prop still remains roughly the same. It’s still overpriced relative to an Edge 530, and feature-wise honestly isn’t close. We just don’t hear any sort of stability issues on the Edge 530 (especially now here in September). So aside from the single-time annoyance of setting up data fields on a Garmin compared to Wahoo with a phone, it’s a tough one.
I think if Wahoo was at $299, then there’s some debate one can have on certain features or the way they are implemented. Or, one could look at things like this radar bit and be like ‘Case close, Wahoo for the win!’.
Not sure if this is still a problem in 2019, but I bought an ELEMNT after using Garmins for years – the 500, 800, 1000 series. All of them had navigation issues, but the most frustrating was the 1000 which would nearly always give up providing turn-by-turn directions on a long ride.
The ELEMNT, on the other hand, is utterly bombproof for navigating routes made in RideWithGPS etc, and is clear enough when following a GPX file side-loaded onto the unit. Being able to generate a route on my phone and ride it within seconds is far easier for me than trying to do it on the head unit.
I with the ROAM was cheaper, but IMHO the experience trounces Garmin. VO2Max and training effect etc might be useful to some, but they’re no more than guesses and you can get the same data from Strava or Training Peaks.
Thanks for the follow up. I sort of forgot the Roam wasn’t also $299. I’ll keep my fingers crossed it comes down for the Christmas season. My 520+ is dying a quick death. Garmin keeps telling me to factory reset and/or check to make sure the latest software is installed. Maybe because they know the year “warranty” is up next month. I would love to believe the 530 works great and the battery life will not deteriorate quickly.
Am I the only one who recoils at the bezel on the ROAM? It looks terrible. Wahoo can’t come out with the next generation fast enough!
There may have been a few comments about the bezel on Ray’s initial review of the device.
I suspect many potential buyers would agree with you as it is a popular design aspect to note in modern devices.
I’ll give Wahoo a pass on the bezel size because I like the idea of having LEDs embedded on the side. Mostly though, the bezel area of devices doesn’t capture my attention very long.
So much this. It’s horrible
Google search the Sigma Rox 12.0. It sets the bezel bar higher.
Relive? Very cool …
Hey Ray, thanks as always.
Do you know if zwift workout transfer to wahoo is coming aswell? ?
Haha…with the recent buy-out of Sufferfest…I suspect not. ;)
Thanks for the answer.
Not what I was hoping though :D
link to instagram.com ?
Awesome!!!
I am so looking forward to change the icons to some d**k that’s going to keep me riding!
The website workout integrations are great, but I have a whole library of workouts from back in the day. I want Wahoo to enable me to put my own workouts on the device without paying for a service that I’m not really using (e.g, trainingpeaks or trainerroad).
When the workouts feature initially appeared, I was able to use a strategy similar to the chicken-icon hackery to introduce my own workouts. However, in the last few months (and several firmware updates after the initial support) I’ve tried it again, and it no longer seems to work. It’s also not clear how to delete or edit a homemade workout using that strategy.
If you’ve got any leverage, please exert…
Mmm you can still kid via USB, I even fixed a issue last month that didn’t remove the workout when you deleted it from the plans folder.
I agree – when it was first announced two years ago there was an option listed to just read in a standard file (e.g. fit/erg):
link to dcrainmaker.com
2 years later it’s still not done as far as I can tell. I’ve queried it on the help a couple of times but never seems to go anywhere. Surely it’s pretty trivial?
The last time I tried the manual method (via USB) it didn’t work for me. I didn’t pursue it, and assumed that the functionality had disappeared. I will try it again.
Thanks for verifying that it *should* still work.
I was so happy when the Varia integration was announced. Not so concerned about TrainerRoad. But, living as I do in a rural area. The sheep CHANGES EVERYTHING.
So, so happy.
So Wahoo took around two years to implement ANT+ radar and now we figure out that Garmin is taking more than two years to implement emojicons?!? *mind-blowing* ;)
Garmin, I hope to be able to get Death Stars in my Edge very soon! :) dots are sooo 2017…
(or am I losing something?)
Is an animated gif possible?
Then there is only one possible icon to go: pacman…
I wish they would integrate with Xert.
Agreed, really itching for this to happen…
” I’m lazy”
If you ever took a course in how to be lazy, you’d get thrown out of class. Probably in the first session. I’m almost sure The Girl agrees.
Hahahaha
I am looking for the most visible icon on the Bolt. So far I have created a Chevron and a Block. Haven’t tried them on the road yet.
Ray,
Totally random question: is there a way to add a device to an Amazon wish list and keep your referral code linked?
Scenario: I click on the Amazon link for the Varia radar above, and add it to my wish list. If someone purchases that off of my wish list, is there a way that the site gets supported?
LOL. You and Shane have had way too much fun with this little late night hack… The real question is what else needs to be hacked?
Well… since you asked…..
– ANT+ Light network support.
– Di2 battery level field (bonus points for Radar battery level)
– ClimbPro but not requiring a route. Make it dynamic and intelligent based on heading.
– Ummmm… custom start logo so we can put our name/details on the unit.
Plus 1 on the light integration.
Yeah, I’d say from a feature standpoint I’d agree with Shane, but would give highest priority on the ClimbPro sans-route. Effectively working the same way Strava Segments works, but with climbs.
I agree with Shane that having a custom start logo could be cool too, and especially if it was app driven, which would one-up Garmin on usability of the way they do it (which requires a PC).
But ultimately, anything involving the addition of farm animals is great.
+2 on ANT+ light support.
Somehow I had an impression that this was coming soon. I have 2 Cycliq lights, and I’d like to have 2 fewer buttons to push.
Also, a fix for the feature that remotely tracks my ride. It usually cuts out when I pause 2/3 of the way through my ride (and also sometimes if my phone loses data connectivity with the carrier, even once the signal comes back
Mmm not sure these are hacks… But we do have planning in a few weeks so I will take note.
+1 custom start logo
ICON SWAP
Had trouble getting Mac to recognise Elemnt Roam as a USB device. Needed to install the Android File Transfer app and then all worked as described.
link to android.com
Thanks for this DC (and Shane). Nice winter diversion.
Recently bought a Garmin Radar for use with my Element, which has outlasted a Bolt on which the screen died and a 530 that now fails to charge unless I carefully waggle the USB connection – oh for USB-C! Actually I prefer the Wahoo Radar implementation with the LEDs, though I so wish I could move HR to the top LEDs and use the side ones for the Radar – they don’t mix well on one set of LEDs in my opinion due to the shared green/orange/red colours. So, I use the top LEDs for the radar with on-screen column – but find the car icon not at all clear on the Elemnt, so remembering this post was real handy as I’ve now loaded a much more visible (but boring, admittedly) icon.
Wonder if the Bolt will get an update soon – the Roam offers me nothing at all since I find the chevron trail fine for my occasional navigating needs (and much easier to use than the default purple 530 route). A Bolt with a better screen and LEDs I can see in daylight would have me upgrading my Elemnt very rapidly, but so would a cheaper Roam, it stills seems very overpriced for its spec to me.
Do you know, if it‘s still possible to change the radar icons using the latest firmware on the Wahoo?