Today at Outdoor Retailer Timex has announced a slew of new products into the fitness and outdoor market. The four new products range from $99 to $399, and cover everything from basic GPS functionality to a high-end integrated live tracking running watch with music capabilities.
For this post I’m going to focus on the Timex One GPS+ unit, which is their new flagship GPS running watch. Later today I’ll circle back with more detail on the other three fitness devices (updated: available here), which include an activity tracker, a basic GPS running watch, and a smartphone connected running watch complete with push notifications.
I’ve had good hands-on time with all four of them, so let’s start for now by diving into the Timex One GPS+.
Overview of key features
Without question this is Timex’s most advanced running watch to date. It breaks through new areas not offered on any previous GPS running watch – Timex or otherwise. At a glance, here’s the significant new features:
– Embedded 3G chipset in the watch itself
– Live Tracking via 3G (no phone required)
– SOS Mode (safety alerts, no phone required)
– 4GB of Music storage space
– Instant messaging application (no phone required)
– Bluetooth Smart sensor support
– Touch screen
As you can see, there’s a huge emphasis on the connected side. But more than just connectivity – connectivity straight to the internet, without the need for a phone on your person.
To enable this Timex has partnered with AT&T and Qualcomm, where AT&T has lit up much of the connectivity based scenarios. This is somewhat unique in the sports tech world as most sports tech companies tend to ‘go it alone’ when it comes to product development, rarely (actually, never) interfacing with telecom partners in a true partnership. Proof of that was evident as the head of AT&T’s mobility division was actually in the booth when I visited.
3G Connectivity – Livetracking & Safety Alerts:
On the unit itself you can see the continual 3G connectivity icon displayed at the top – just like your cell phone. Though, just like your cell phone you can also put it into airplane mode should situation warrant.
Despite the AT&T partnership the unit will work overseas just fine, via service provider roaming partnerships. Such roaming costs the consumer no additional money, as it’s all handled behind the scenes by AT&T. For the first year the connected services will be free – though after that there will be some form of monthly charge via the telecom company. The exact pricing isn’t determined quite yet, but will fall in line with adding a second device to an AT&T plan.
Note that initially the unit will only be offered for sale within the US & Canada. Or, more specifically, only to those with a US/Canadian address for purchase. Timex is working to quickly make it available internationally though that does require more hurdles from a regulatory standpoint due to the 3G connectivity.
The core features that are enabled via the 3G connectivity are live tracking and SOS alerts. Live tracking works by you first defining contacts to share your position with. These are configured within the Timex phone app (iOS/Android), which serves to configure the majority of the settings on the device.
Once you’ve started a session your predefined contacts will automatically receive tracking information and a map where they can watch your positioning. This live tracking will also include sensor data from a Bluetooth Smart heart rate strap if being worn. The update rate online is every 60-seconds, though it’ll backfill all the data over the past 60-seconds to the online site.
In addition to live tracking the unit also can send out SOS alerts. These alerts can be triggered in the event of some sort of issue. For example if you run off the edge of a cliff while trail running, or simply can’t find an ice cream stand – both critical issues warranting immediate phone a friend support.
The SOS alerts can be customized ahead of time as well, so you could have defaults such as “Fell off cliff, bring rope or helicopter!” to “Bring me ice cream, stat!”, and then sent to your contacts along with your location information. This information is relayed via both a smartphone app that the contacts (aka ‘Angels’) can install which pops up a smartphone notification, alternatively they can be concurrently sent just via e-mail. While it doesn’t send text messages, almost all mobile providers offer the option to have an e-mail address that sends you a text message – so it’s easy to configure that too by yourself.
The SOS functionality is similar to what Bia Sports has done with their unit, though just taking it to a new level with more customization and more flexibility.
Building on the connectivity scenario the unit supports the ability to receive e-mails through a specific unique external e-mail address. When a message comes into this address the watch will allow you to respond via a small instant messaging application. So think of it more like text messages than true long-form e-mails. Meaning, you wouldn’t get photos from something like your weekly Victoria’s Secret e-mail. Rather, it’s for short-form communications.
You can respond via a small keyboard that also allows for templatized responses – such as ‘Leave me alone, I’m running!’.
Messages can also be sent to your contacts, which are sync’d from your phone:
Note that the unit isn’t integrated like a typical smartwatch however, meaning, it won’t get text notifications or the like from your phone directly. So while there is some integration at the phone to device level, it’s mostly for configuration rather than continual communications. The communications are really meant more to transit 3G instead.
Music Playback:
Building on the new functionality front is the inclusion of 4GB of music storage. This music can be loaded via USB from your computer, where the device will enumerate as a standard USB mass storage device:
From there you can playback music and see album covers and song information. This music playback occurs via Bluetooth, to devices such as wireless Bluetooth headphones or other Bluetooth music playback units (such as a Jawbone speaker).
Core Running Functionality:
Of course, at the core of the unit is the running capabilities. Ultimately, it’s a GPS running watch. The unit can be customized for a few different modes including a free running mode as well as goal-based modes – such as running a specific distance.
Further, you can also do full interval workouts, including defining all stages of a proper interval workout.
And you can also setup alerts for areas such as pace and heart rate:
While running, you can pair to a Bluetooth Smart heart rate strap. The unit doesn’t contain ANT+ sensor compatibility at this point.
Like past Timex units, the device also supports features such as auto lap and the ability to configure data pages.
You can configure three data pages, each with 1-4 data metrics per page (of your choosing):
Additionally, you can choose to invert the screen should you want white on black instead of black on white.
When you complete a run it’ll automatically upload the workout to a Timex cloud platform:
From there it can be configured to automatically be pushed to major platforms including MapMyRun, Strava, and Runkeeper. They do have a business partnership API into the Timex platform, though they’re also working with other companies to establish partnerships as well. They expect more partners than just those three at launch.
Today the unit is focused on running, though down the road via firmware updates (which occur over the air via 3G) they expect to add some form of cycling support. That could potentially open the door further to some form of multisport mode, but that’d be a longer ways off. Of course with 8 hours of active GPS battery life it’d be tough to complete a full Ironman with the unit, so it’d likely be targeted at those wanting to complete shorter events.
Speaking of which, today Ironman (as well as USAT) do indeed ban communication devices during a race. But Timex seemed confident they’ll be able to work out the rules issues there, especially since Ironman (well, WTC) has been very involved with the development of the product from the very inception and bringing together the key parternships, including AT&T.
Lastly, the watch also works as a normal day to day watch, getting approximately 3 days with GPS off but 3G enabled. You can also go into airplane mode and get even longer, though Timex hasn’t finalized testing there – though expect it to be significantly more than the 3 days with 3G enabled. You can configure watch faces as well as alarms directly on the unit.
Initial Thoughts:
Overall, I’m really impressed with the functionality contained and promised in the unit. The core areas I’ll be looking at down the road in an in-depth review will be the final responsiveness of the touchscreen and usability in adverse conditions (such as rain, but also at the end of a hard track workout set) – as well as how well the connected features like live tracking work. While the unit is definitely a bit larger than most running watches on the market (slightly smaller than their Timex Global Trainer GPS), it is 50m waterproofed.
The ability to simply have your runs immediately on sites like Strava without any additional phone required is great, but the live tracking could be a ground breaker in areas where folks don’t want to drag a phone with them. For cyclists having a phone has never been a huge issue, but for many runners taking a phone with them has always been a bit of a pain (while no doubt for others, taking a phone along is completely normal).
Lastly, the unit will be available around the end of October for $399US (or $449 with a HR strap), and will be available both via traditional sports/retail stores as well as the AT&T stores. As usual, expect a full in-depth review from me once the final hardware and software is ready, likely within a week or so of the retail availability.
Note: Timex has also released three other watches/products today as well, my post on them can be found here.
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Update: Clever Training now has the One GPS+ available for pre-order (as well as the three other watches they released). I’ve just recently added all four products into the product comparison database as well. And here’s all the pre-order links that help support the site.
Timex Ironman Move x20
Timex Ironman Run x20 GPS
Timex Ironman Run x50
Timex Ironman One GPS+
As usual, note that Clever Training is typically conservative in their estimations of product arrivals (read: realistic) – mostly because most watch companies are overly optimistic in their product release estimates. So it sorta balances out.
Feel free to drop any questions below though in the comments. Thanks for reading!
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So does that mean one would eventually need a cell phone plan for the use of the watch with 3G service? I know you said the first year is tentatively free but after that, would need to be added to a plan. We don’t have cells, which is why I ask.
Jaime, yes, I imagine AT&T won’t try to reinvent the wheel and structure the plans like their data plans for tablets. This nothing more than a guess, of course
Maybe it could work like a 3G kindle where there is no charge at all.
There will be no charge for the first year. After that, there will be some form of charge.
I own the Motorola motoactiv I am looking for a replacement. My primary use will be running (outdoor and indoor), cycle and I love the golf feature
I’d really look at the Garmin Vivoactive as a good option there, since it does golf. Just was announced, check out my post from a few weeks ago.
Would love to see similar swim functionality as the garmin 910 or poolmates.
Is the garmin 910 still the gold standard for swim/run/bike watches? I have been waiting for the Ambit3 to come out but I just don’t know what to do at this point. Also, in the next few months it seems like a lot of bluetooth/waterproof smart watches will be released that will have apps that can track swimming.
yep still the gold standard IMHO. Maybe a Garmin 920xt this year?
Hi Ray,
Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but do you see all future watches not having ANT+ pairing capabilities? I just got a ANT+ power meter last winter and I’d really hate for it to become obsolete with my next watch purchase. thanks and keep up the great work.
I think companies are examining this very closely. I personally think from a technical perspective, Ant+ is better, but if I were a company, I’d go BTLE because it’s a way to draw in the smartphone crowd, who, while possibly less ‘serious’ athletes, constitute a significantly larger market. I’m irritated with Suunto about dropping Ant+ for BTLE, but to be sure, they likely realized jumping ship now was a better move than jumping ship three years from now. They likely did a lot of market trend analysis to end up there. Small pain now vs. larger pain later.
I wouldn’t worry about your power meter purchase just yet though; I think you’ve got several years of solid companies offering solid Ant+ products, and I’m sure there’ll be a niche of Ant+->BTLE converters out there to address this trend anyway. I wouldn’t sweat it if I were you.
To add to KenZ’s insightful post – I think ANT+ will go the way of the dodo only when Garmin goes belly up. ANT+ support being offered on other manufacturer’s products, however, is an additional cost if you’re going to have BT anyway, in terms of hardware, software and licensing. So it will depend on how well Garmin will play their cards IMO.
It would be funny if, down the road, Garmin were the last company to offer support for ANT+ (in addition to BT)
Regardless, I’m just hoping the smartphone craze will start losing steam at some point, because the end trajectory is not being able to flush your toilet if your battery runs out.
The smartphone “craze” is only in it’s infancy. I’m sorry to say you’ve got another 20+ years of this tech to live through. I don’t think it will replace a mechanical toilet flushing lever anytime soon
ANT+ will be around for quite some time to come. SOME new vendors are starting to support only Bluetooth smart. Sensible accessory manufacturers will add compatibility for both.
+1
I called Timex to ask. it is just a running watch, not a multi sport watch, what are you thoughts on that ? All these features do me no good, if I still need another piece of kit, when on my bike for cadence and power.
Look forward to your update.
Thanks
John Z
sorry I missed the line about cycling support, my bad.
thanks for the review! love your site.
Make something like this for all the Ironman Pros/participants and you have instant/live tracking! As long as it was only one-way for just tracking purposes.
Does the unit have an accelerometer in it for tracking steps on a treadmill?
It does indeed have an accelerometer, which they are looking to leverage down the road in future firmware updates. Right now they’re trying to avoid boiling the ocean.
What’s the battery life with live tracking on?
Wow, Timex comes back from the dead in a hurry. Would love to see some rolling pin comparison shots, but moreso I’d love to see Garmin launch similar 3G-enabled hardware. 920 perhaps? A guy can dream.
Dear Garmin,
Please plagiarize 3G connectivity without a phone for the 920.
Dear USAT/Ironman,
Please de-ban communication in races.
One of the issues with the Run Trainer is the lack of storage. I guess uploading workouts takes care of this. What is the accessability of past workouts on the watch? If you know.
Considering that it can hold 4GB of music i would like to think that they solved the storage size issue. GPS/HR workouts are TINY compared to music…
Sounds nice in theory but I can’t see the battery lasting very long on this with GPS, 3G and playing music over Bluetooth all at the same time.
Specs say 4 hrs with all three. Remains to be seen.
Looks very interesting!
But I backed the Neptune Pine (www.getneptune.com) on kickstarter which looks a little similar but less running-focused.. So I wait for its delivery now.
Live tracking without a phone totally trumps the connectivity Garmin has been adding. But I sure hope the connection charges after the first year are well below that of the charge for an iPad. The amount of data being transferred is pretty minuscule. I’m not likely to be willing to pay $10+ a month for this.
I think I would pay $10 a month to have my family know where I am on every bike ride and run. That’s a great safety feature. And I’ve found that my wife let’s me ride longer because she’s less worried. That’s totally worth the money.
on the other hand, how far can You go with 4hrs battery life?? (GPS+3G+music). I think battery life itself would keep Your wife calmer :-P
You can do that with a smartphone and a data plan, no need for a separate $10 monthly charge :)
But then you have to carry your phone around. The whole point here is that you don’t need to have your bulky phone. This option is way more interesting. But it would be highway robbery if they try to charge the same as a connected tablet for a device that uses such a small amount of bandwidth.
” But it would be highway robbery if they try to charge the same as a connected tablet for a device that uses such a small amount of bandwidth.”
That’s not a fair comparison. Connected tablets usually are added to existing data plans, so you’re paying $10 for the right to split up a pie you already bought. The fee for connecting this watch is a standalone (with no global roaming charges at all!). You also won’t need to be an AT&T customer.
Anyway, I read that the annual fee will be $40. It’s a pretty small amount of data, overall.
I’ll interested in hearing how the battery life is. The Addidas watch with similar functionality promised 4 hours of battery life (with all sensors on) too but fell far short of that.
Very interesting… now imagine the same functionality in a device with the looks of the 620 or the MOTOACTV…
The questions I have revolve around “will it be a brick if I say screw you AT&T after year 1”, or can I continue to use it via wifi ?
The chances of me paying AT&T for my running watch, or signing up for any kind of contract, are between zero and negative infinity unless we are talking $50/yr or less, and without me already having an AT&T cell plan either.
But if I can use it without paying AT&T, then this watch is basically represents what the Motorola Active should have been – a GPS watch plus bluetooth mp3 player with better battery life and waterproofing.
I second that.there shouldnt be additional charges in the already pricey device.
Wait a minute… a watch with the Ironman brand on it that has no multisport capability at all? WTC will take money from anyone!
The usual suspect sites – verge, engadget etal – have written this product off already. Honestly, comparing theirs to Rays is like comparing chalk to cheese; so Ray, thank you for your fair and balanced reviews!
Naturally this isn’t something a tech-head non-athlete would get excited about.
Have you had your hands on the Timex IRONMAN Run x50+ or know anything about it?
Thanks,
JohnO
Maybe I should learn to read better. You clearly mention that above.
Look forward to your post.
Unfortunately, it’s available only in US, at least for time being.
I’d love to see more of a usability focus. From the shots (please correct me if my impression is wrong) they’ve started over and tried to add running into a mobile-device optimized experience, rather than simply adding live-updating to a run-optimized experience. I don’t need smooth scrolling that results in partial rows showing FFS!
I do love the 3G idea, but so far my dream device would remain:
– 910XT
– Better swim positioning when worn on the wrist
– Live updating to GarminConnect over 3G with a sync to TP after completion
– Automatic “dumb watch” mode at 5% battery left to extend another few hours
– “Race mode” instead of “Auto Multisport” that understood things like disabling auto-pause
– No extra features
That’s it. No music, no color, no texting… I’ve got a phone for all that. Just a great running / multisport watch please.
Website says: “GPS, Bluetooth, and cellular features not available underwater” — meaning don’t bother comparing to 910xt, Fenix2 or Ambit2
…and why even brand it Ironman if the battery won’t last a full Iron distance?
Seems like just another social media gadget to me :(
Note: Those features don’t work under water for any device.
I do agree with your comment about the battery. Ironman branding with an 8 hour battery life is hugely disappointing. Honestly, that’s the ONLY thing holding me back from pre-ordering right now. As it stands, I’ll wait to see if Garmin can improve that with their next multi-sport watch.
Well yeah, if you want to get technical, they do lose signal as your hand goes underwater, but the 3 I listed will track distance in water using GPS. They’re just using an algorithm to fix the data as it gains & loses signal.
It’s just silly that there are GPS watches branded as multisport that will not track distance in open water… unless you put them in a swim cap.
Except it’s not branded as a multisport device. It’s branded as a running/marketed device.
I totally get it…. I just think they shouldn’t brand it as Ironman unless it’s going to be multisport.
My 620 does a fine job of tracking me while I swim.
It doesn’t give me swim metrics (SWOLF etc) because it gets confused and thinks it is running (I keep it in running mode), but it tracks distance and time just fine for my open water swims.
I wouldn’t say that’s normal (honestly, I’d say that’s just pure and simple luck). For most people, using anything that doesn’t have a swim mode results in pretty wonky looking data.
Really?
It has worked perfectly for me every swim I’ve had. I actually initially thought it would be horrible and had my wife and her FR15 ride in a boat next to me while I swam. Almost identical distance…
LOVE the G3 functionality – overall this watch has exactly the feature set I’d want in a smartwatch for running and social use cases where having a phone would be impractical or inappropriate. The looks and screen size, not so much. But i really, really, hope this feature set catches on so I’m not the only one who wants this mix.
Great new features. However could they not have designed a better looking watch. I know that fitness watches serve a practical purpose. But Timex could benefit from working on the overall aesthetics of their products.
I think the others have hit the nail on the head. For runners this product looks exciting. The thought of heading out with just this, a bluetooth smart HRM like Scosche Rhythm+ and some wireless bluetooth earphones is very very appealing. However the Motoactv and Adidas were also very appealing until they each had their own issues, mainly battery life. Let’s hope Timex have managed to overcome that.
Fingers crossed for 5 to 6 hours battery with live tracking and music on.
I think this is a step into the future, but how can this be a true Ironman watch if it doesn’t cover swimming, cycling, & running?
My only hope is that Garmin is watching & will adopt a similar bleeding edge approach to the 920 whenever that comes out.
Timex has long been an Ironman partner, and if you look at the vast majority of Timex products spanning well before any of their current GPS products they were all branded Ironman. It’s essentially just a marketing partnership, but doesn’t really imply that you need to use it for swim/bike/run.
After all, there’s been Ironman perfumes and everything else…
Yes my thoughts exactly….looking for an equivalent to the Garmin
Very interesting development regarding technology, but how do Timex and Ironman see this watch being used during Ironman events?
The Ironman safety regulations state the following:
§ 2 Safety Regulations
4. It is forbidden to carry equipment, which can in any way be described as “communication or entertainment media” (Mobile phone, iPod, MP3 player, camera, video-camera, etc.). It is not decisive if the athlete actually utilizes these objects or not. If an athlete violates this rule, the athlete will be disqualified by the competition jury. An immediate disqualification by a referee on the official race course, upon determination of the violation, is possible.
A similar issue comes to mind about coaching:
§ 9 Coaching
1. Coaching is defined as support of the athlete during the race by vocal instructions and cheering. Coaching is generally allowed with the following limitations.
– Electric or other amplifying devices are not permitted.
– All forms of coaching, where the coach moves with or past the athlete (with vehicles, bike, inline skates, running, etc.) are not permitted. This includes following behind the athlete per vehicle or foot.
2. Coaching is only allowed from the side of the course, the coach is not permitted to be on the official race course or move with the athlete.
The border between watch, iPod/MP3 player and mobile phone (instant messaging) is removed in this watch. It is possible to listen to music as well as to receive instant messaging with feedback from a coach. While it is possible to not use these features during the event, it is not possible to check upon the athletes (especially the messaging part). Hence, will this watch be banned from Ironman events?
I covered this in the post. ;)
Ironman on Twitter has said the music portion won’t be permitted however.
Sorry, missed that paragraph :)
It will be interesting to see how this will work out in practice though and how “Timex will work out the rule issue”. If the music portion will not be permitted, a rule change will be required since “It is forbidden to carry equipment […] It is not decisive if the athlete actually utilizes these objects or not.”
From the Ironman tweet it would then appear that the messaging part might become permitted. Perhaps this device will trigger the birth of a new allowed way of coaching/supporting during events.
Anyway. And more than that. Is the battery life. Not even professional athletes would use it in an ironman.
Would be great to see such device with optical heart rate monitor and some sort of activity tracker. It is rather strange that companies do not want to capture huge market by having all the features in one device so that one could get music player, smart watch for notifications and activity tracker all in the same package – more expensive to purchase at once, but cheaper than having 3 devices.
Do Timex use the same GPS processor as in the Timex Run Trainer 2.0? Signal reception can take some time in the old model, surely longer than TomTom runner or Ambit. Will they use cached data technology?
Totally different from my understanding. I’ll get clarity on satellite pre-caching.
Like the features, but for looks this is my nominee for the “2014 My Watch Was Hit With a Fugly Stick” award.
THIS. I understand these things are tools and I am not a “it has to look “Apple” cool kind of guy” but when a company in 2014 comes out with something that looks like this it says to me “we aren’t even trying.”
Perhaps grossly unfair but the moment I *saw* it and I knew I would never consider it.
This could be the answer to my problem since my Motorola Motoactv succumbed to water damage after 3 years of reliable use. Why aren’t more companies integrating the music feature to make all-in-one products? I don’t want to carry/charge two devices.
Excellent leap forward. Next add in a camera, longer battery, functions from Garmin Fenix 2 plus ANT+ and you’ve got the next big thing. But how long until this is released?
Would definitely consider it if it had a Pandora app. That is the one thing that has moved me away from a Garmin watch to my iPhone 5s with the iSmoothRun app. I also wear my Pebble when I run, which has a Pandora app that allows me to skip songs, switch stations, etc.
With a 3G connection, I guess it would be possible?
you wouldn’t get photos from something like your weekly Victoria’s Secret e-mail
By the time I scroll to the bottom to get to the unsubscribe link, I forget my intention was to unsubscribe!
Love this blog! Wondering if I can wear my Garmin or Polar HRM or do I need to purchase the HRM that Timex is selling with the watch? The embedded 3G is a gamechanger in my mind. Thanks,
The Timex unit is non-ANT+, which means the Garmin straps won’t work. For the Polar strap it would depend on exactly which model. The Polar H6 and H7 straps would work, since they are Bluetooth Smart enabled.
It sounds awesome except for the lack of ANT support, which is a deal breaker as it makes a whole mess of power meters non-compatible. For four hundred bucks, you should be able to transmit power data from a 2 year old power tap. At that price, its competitor is the garmin 910xt which does (almost) all of it. Also, when you’re running, you don’t generally need the SOS. It’s when you’re cycling and you get your second flat out in the boondocks or endo over a log and get knocked silly.
Hi All-
Just as a heads up I’ve gone ahead and added all four new Timex products (Run x50, Run 20 GPS, Move x20, and One GPS+) into the product comparison tool/database last night, which can be found here:
link to dcrainmaker.com
Further, Clever Training has opened pre-orders for all four products as well. The links which support the site can be found at the end of the post here:
link to dcrainmaker.com
Thanks for the support!
-Ray
Hi Ray, Do you think this watch can work (3G part of it) outside of the states? If it had a SIM card slot, that would make things much easier but I’m not sure how you approach a cellular company with such a product…
It works outside the US just fine using the AT&T plan which roaming is included (one just needs a US address to provision the account). Beyond that, they’ll be working with various other providers internationally to establish similar partnerships.
Hi Ray,
Did you get to see the charging clip? I’m curious if they made it such that it could be charged while worn (for races or hikes over 8 hours).
Thanks!
Cheers,
Bryan
No, didn’t see it.
So once the free one-year data plan runs out, can you still use this watch as a stand-alone device? Can you pair it with a phone and get alerts? It looks like pairing with a phone is only used to configure the device.
Slashgear indicates free first year, $40/year after.
AT&T makes clear that no matter how you purchase the Timex Ironman One GPS+, through AT&T or otherwise, the first hear of service is included for free. That’s data service – your first year is entirely free through AT&T’s data network, the only network this watch will work with for starters.
After that, you’ll be able to pay $40 per year with AT&T for data with this device. AT&T also mentions that you’ll be able to add this device to your Mobile Share account in the future – soon.
Does this work at all with cycling?
Can you get speed/cadence with it somehow if you have old ANT+ sensor?
Do they anticipate getting that?
If they had that, could track swimming, and had a built in heart rate monitor with sensors in back of watch – this would be THE watch.
Why arent people thinking and rushing so much?
Hi Ray,
Does the Timex One incorporate the Wahoo API? I would like to know if the Tickr Run can be used as both heart rate & cadence sensors.
The Timex One does not, however, the Timex x50 Run does.
Definitely interested in your final review before I pull the trigger on this from Clever Training. How long?
I don’t have a unit in-hand yet, so, at least another 30-45 days before a review (if a unit were to arrive tomorrow).
Ok thanks. I’ll wait to see what you say. I think too many manufacturers are trying to cram too much into these devices without properly testing them. It will be worth waiting for your review.
How long does it take to fully charge from 0%?
Any chance of this getting swimming mode, or any chance of triathlon mode
Ray,
It would seem some are getting the Timex ONE GPS already. link to fleetfeetpittsburgh.com and link to onerelay.timex.com Any reason Timex hasn’t sent you one already?
Just waiting for your review, for me the live tracking without carrying the phone its my deal breaker. I’m a happy Garmin FR220 user but depending your review ic an easily make the change.
regards
Any idea if this will support spoken alerts through the bluetooth headset like the Adidas? When I’m in the “high on the pain” portion of a running race, I find it useful having spoken updates (yes, I know glancing at one’s wrist is not hard work, but getting pace, time, distance, average pace etc all coming at you once per mile with no need to fiddle with buttons or wait for an auto scroll is a nice luxury, but has required an unwelcome phone or a watch that strains to get through a marathon).
Since the sensors are also bluetooth, does that mean sensors plus gps is also a 4 hour battery life (just like music plus gps)?
Although I never owned either, Ray and others indicate that the Motoactv and Adidas Smart Run suffered from short battery life. The 4 hour stated battery life is not encouraging. In my opinion, you wouldn’t buy this if you didn’t want music, gps, 3G, and bluetooth on at the same time. Battery life or the lack thereof is clearly going to be a serious issue for everyone considering buying this one. Can’t wait for the review.
It’s been mentioned that the battery would not be likely to last an entire Ironman distance, so it would also seem to mean that it wouldn’t last for an ultra marathon (maybe 50K, not anything farther) either? I know the Fenix2 and Bia has an “Ultra” setting that reduces the GPS data density to preserve battery life, but having the ability to send SMS messages and live track my off trail routes would great benefit my family and co-workers when I decide to change my plans mid-run and take a different route. Granted, the live tracking needs ATT or other cellular service, which happens to be sparse, to non-existent in most places I find myself running and climbing. Maybe someone could come up with satellite connectivity like the Spot to live track in a wrist mounted package?
I understand that the watch doesn’t receive notifications directly from your phone like a smartwatch, but does it receive SMS messages sent to your telephone number? Is there any way for it to receive emails sent to your primary email address? Or is the only messaging option to email to and from the separate, standalone email address? If it’s the later, then its use is primarily for emergencies rather than general connectivity.
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I really like the vocal distance updates provided by my Nike iPod 7th gen. Since this watch has our ears via the mp3 player I really hope to hear that it has/will have this sort of feature implemented.
Ray,
I hoping you have this in the queue by now. If this paired with the Jabra Sport Pulse headphones works reliably, I’d be in running heaven. Only two devices to charge, GPS, music, tracking, heart rate, auto upload to runkeeper, synced to strava and garmin by tapirik, awesomeness. I know I’ll be let down but I can dream. Looking forward to reviews on these. Thanks.
Ray,
I know the Motoactv battery was listed as 258 mah and the Adidas Smart Run is listed at 410 mah. Both seem to suffer from battery life issues. Obviously, although the ASR has a larger battery it is also using more with the built in heart rate sensor. Do you know the rating on the Timex? It would seem it would need 410 or more. Although it doesn’t have the heart rate sensor, it does have the 3G. I am aware the the Motoactv could be used with wired headphones which require much less juice that a bluetooth connection. Both the ASR and the Timex would appear to suffer in this area as bluetooth headphones are the only option on them. Your thoughts?
Just read that Timex is looking to add activity tracking in early 2015 software update.
I think the whole tracking thing is just faddish but it is interesting.
Ray,
What’s the status on this thing. Not a single review anywhere on the interwebs. I noticed it first had a release date of Nov. 4, then Nov. 7, then Nov. 17 and still nothing. Still claims it is available for pre-order. Getting concerned this thing is DOA. Was hoping the was the first real integration of music and gps after the somewhat dissappointing Motoactv and Adidas Smart Run. Can you give any indication if you know anything Ray? Thanks.
ATT website now says not shipping until Dec. 6. Hey Timex, I have an idea, wait until the Apple watch is out so it really kills your sales.
I really doubt that the primary users of this watch would consider the iWatch a viable alternative. The iWatch isn’t a sports watch at all, and the main selling point of the Timex is that you don’t have to take a phone with you.
Jeff,
I understand your point but somewhat disagree. At a recent 5k event with a small crowd of only about 150 runners I saw 5 gps watches and about 75 smartphones in use by runners. If this is the trend the gps watch business is dismal at best. Right now, if you run with music and see stats on your wrist, there are three alternatives (1) a gps watch and ipod, (2) a smart phone and Magellan Echo or similar, or (3) the Adidas Smart Run. I think the Apple watch will most likely, among many other things, show stats like the Echo. Most people are unlikely to buy two $400 watches of any kind. Timex had a chance to beat Apple to the market and grab a foothold with some. Yes, some will buy this regardless. But others who buy into the Apple watch, and no doubt millions and millions will, will simply just make do with what they have versus buying another high priced watch.
Jeff,
Said another way, if you don’t believe Runkeeper, et al. will have an app for the Apple watch before it hits the market you are badly mistaken. Everyone in the gps watch biz better get ready for a serious hit once the Apple watch goes to market. Opportunity lost if those in the business don’t get their products to market before Apple.
I think you’re missing my point. I’m not saying that the iwatch wont’ be a far more widely adopted product, even among most people who are into fitness. I’m saying that the Timex is a product aimed at a particular group of people–serious or competitive runners–who simply will not carry something as bulky as a phone while training. People who use Runkeeper, i.e. casual fitness runners, aren’t the target audience.
What kind of races do you run? fun runs, untimed events? At most of my races the serious runner wear some GPS device. Honestly the most common seem to be the Garmin FR10/15. I see those more than amything I have no idea on Sales data.
I run fairly competitively at all distances between 1500 meters and the marathon. I win money on occasion. I used to have a shoe contract. I can say that when I toe the line at a race (and my toe is always literally on the starting line, as it’s rare for me to finish outside the top 10), hardly anyone around me has a gps watch.
This watch may not be DOA, but it may be on life support. The Timex website has just changed the listed release to “Spring 2015”. I wonder if someone at Timex realized the recently released Samsung Gear S does everything this one does (standalone GPS+Data with at least Nike+ support), along with a (poor) heart rate sensor, and most importantly, much much better ergonomics and screen, all for $50 less. One can quibble about waterproofing and higher monthly fees, but the two products look to be from different decades. Whatever the reason, if Timex is going to keep up with tech companies moving into the watch business they will have to up their game.
I disagree. I don’t know the full status of the timex one. I did see once that they wi add activity tracking to the watch.
But the waterproofing and monthly fees are more than minor. One fee is $10/month and the fees are from Day One. Adding $120 negates any “lower” price. Plus the sports stuff are add-ons
I would think the samsung isn’t rugged enough.
Has anyone successfully ordered or received the Timex One GPS+ yet? I ordered it from Roadrunner Sports on 11/24, got their Confirmation and was just notified that they canceled the order because the item is no longer available.
The One GPS+ has been delayed until spring (possibly sooner, but that’s a safe estimate). That said, I’ll have a post about it from a run that I did today with it, probably either Tues or Wednesday.
I don’t understand why ironman would put it’s logo on a watch that only tracks running. It’s waterproof to 50meters, yet on their website timex says the GPS doesn’t work underwater. Garmin doesn’t seem to have a problem tracking swims using GPS, so what’s the problem Timex? If this watch had a multisport mode I’d be all about it. But an ironman watch that only tracks running? That’s like buying a pair of Trek running shoes…
Ironman puts their logo on all sorts of things, including bathroom perfume and many other items not suited for an Ironman.
As for this watch, the reason is simple: It’s not designed as a triathlon watch. It’s designed as a running watch.
If I buy the watch from USA will the basic functionality like GPS, running apps and music work in Indiaas there is no tie up with the service provider yet.
Stopped by the AT&T store today and they stated they had sent all the watches due to a hardware issue. Something about the docking/synch hookup wasn’t working. Still looking at mid April.
I got an email from Timex saying they were available today. (2/20)
Hey, DCR! I bought my first GPS running watch three years ago, based on your reviews. It was the Timex Run Trainer (V.1) and I have loved it. Now, I am moving duathlons and possibly a tri or two, so I need a multi-sport watch. Problem is, I am so into the Training Peaks system that I don’t want to give it up. Is Timex getting out of the multi-sport business? The only thing I can find reviewed by you is the Global Trainer, and that is over four years old! I don’t like buying technology that is that dated. It doesn’t look like any of these four are what I’m looking for, either. What are your thoughts?
As always, thanks for all you do. Your reviews are simply amazing and I can’t believe you don’t have a team of 20 clones of you doing all of this!
Yeah, they’re pretty much out of the multisport GPS business.
The good news is that TrainingPeaks is most definitely not. So if you went and picked up a Garmin multisport GPS unit (i.e. FR920XT/Fenix3), then it’ll all go to TP seamlessly.
Yeah, that’s a good looking watch! I’m just not sure I’m at that point in my competitive life to drop $500 on it!!! I guess I better consider the “dated” tech, again. Wonder why Timex got out of the game? They have a nice product and history.
A little off topic…. Any indication Garmin may add bluetooth music to any of their devices?
Really appreciate your work!
It is indeed available. Not sure if I can post a link, but those of you curious about the details and features of the watch can find an extensive FAQ and links to the AT&T website, which contains videos and detailed use instructions. It does appear to have audible alerts and even a “find my watch” feature. It may be a $400 horse carriage in the automotive (smartwatch) age, but it does appear to be a turbocharged waterproof one.
I’ve got the watch! Been really excited to get ahold of this as it solves my wife worrying about me while running and I don’t have to carry a phone. Only fooled with it for an hour so far (no running yet). Interface seems pretty easy to navigate, the watch face isn’t quite as bright as the advertising would have had you believe. A little disappointed that it only does tracking if you start a workout but that’s a minor issue. It’s a large watch, definitely not for daily wear, but it isn’t huge.
Can you use it with wet fingers (sweat/rain)? Based on the demo video of Timex:
link to youtube.com
almost all functionality is touches and swipes …
So far I haven’t had any problems with wet fingers. The swipe actions do take a little time to get used to but then it seems to be responsive. I have now run with it a couple of times and the display actually gets brighter, and easier to read, in the sun. So I retract that gripe.
I got a notification that the Timex One is now available to buy. Ray, are you planning a full review on this or are you going to pass?
Yup, I’m ordering one today/tomorrow and will probably start testing sometime next week.
I am very excited about the new $40/year 3G global plan and what other innovating products that would bring (Garmin, Suunto etc.) in the future!
That said, the fine print on AT&T’s site mentions “data usage limits of 10MB and 250 messages/month”:
link to att.com
Would that be enough data for someone who runs 60mpw+ and uploads data to Strava? I checked my .FIT data from my Garmin FR10 and I am generating around 120KB/week but the FR10 doesn’t record HR, Running Dynamics, etc. and it only supports smart (not 1s) recording.
It would be interesting for you to check whether 10MB/month will be a serious limitation …
Ok, so its not ANT…..anyway or where,to add the suunto ANT2 and get it to work with all my Ant devices already on my bike.this is a major drawback here for me.love the watch though.
Can you be a Verizon phone subscriber and still be able to use this?
No, only AT&T right now.
So only current AT&T subscribers can use this watch?
You don’t have to be an AT&T subscriber, it’s just only offered through them. Plus, the first year of service is free anyway.
Ok, sorry for all the questions. I just want to make sure I understand because I want to purchase this if I can. I can be a Verizonwireless subscriber and buy this watch and it will still work with the year of AT&T service? It doesnt have to be an add on to an existing AT&T plan or anything like that?
Think of it like a separate service entirely from your cell phone (TV, home phone etc.), The separation is the entire idea, and the two are not linked in function or service. You will have to pay for service after the free year, but it will be a separate payment and contract than your cell.
This watch is supposed to have a Mirasol screen, with better contrast ratios and less power usage than other display technologies… have you noticed if the screen looks any better than the other LCD watches (e.g. all Garmin)? Specially in daylight. The pictures do not seem to do it any justice.
The clarity of the screen especially in bright sunlight is incredible, considering thinner fonts/numbers used in the stats fields (seems to be the recent trend in the industry ie. Fenix 3, 920xt).
So I won one of these from Fitfluential and I am really excited to try it out, but I don’t think the one I got is coming with a heart rate sensor, what bluetooth sensor do you suggest?
In theory it’ll pair with any Bluetooth Smart sensor. I personally wear an optical sensor, the Scosche Rhythm+ whenever I’m not testing something specific.
will it worth with the regular rythm since it is bluetooth?
No, for the HR sensor it must be Bluetooth Smart.
I love the live tracking without a phone and the SOS messaging. I have (had) a Bia and that was the main reason I bought it. However, now that Bia has tanked, I can’t do anything with it because the only data transfer option was with the cell network. I can use it for runs and it will show me data while running, but now it’s stuck on the watch forever and totally unusable. This is the biggest problem I see with the Timex as well, even though the cell plans are individual (instead of corporate like Bia) and inexpensive. If at some point in the future I decide I don’t want to renew the service, can’t afford it, or move to a part of the country that has poor AT&T service, I have a useless watch. I think these companies should be considering a backup data transfer option if they’re going to use cell networks as the primary transfer.
Any word yet on whether USAT has ruled this a legal watch for triathlons? I would really like to wear it for Olympic/ Sprint tris so that I can use the live tracking feature. I would love to allow my wife and kids to track my progress while I’m on the course and outside of this watch, or a live tracking rental device, there doesn’t seem to be a legal way.
Are they still promoting first year free for data plans on the TIMEX One.
Yes, I just bought it last week and starting using it this weekend. It comes with 1-year free messaging service through AT&T, it’s automatic to start (no need to sign up with AT&T, no credit card required, etc.)
A great mix of features. Holding off to see if they update to track swimming or cycling.
According to USAT rule 3.4(k), I don’t think this watch would be an issue. As long as it is not used in its music player mode. I ran into Richie Cunningham at Texas 70.3 and he showed us this enormous gps transmitter the pros have to wear. If this watch was used in a similar manner during a race, just for live tracking, I think that it would be race legal.
In that case, WTC has approved them (due to partnership on those devices), and WTC technically isn’t under USAT rules.
I actually checked with USAT and the official who got back to me told me due to the ability to play mp3’s that it is not compliant. I replied that as far as I know, and someone who has can correct me if I am wrong, you MUST have bluetooth headphones in order to hear the music therefore without headphones there is no mp3 player. Am I wrong? That haven’t responded to my counter argument.
Noticed a price drop on Amazon to $299 for the GPS One. You’ve completed a review. Amazon reviews are bad. What’s the status on this thing? Is it a dead end product in Motoactv fashion? Although, I see lots of price drops with the Adidias Run Smart, Tom Tom Cardios, etc. Is this in response to the Garmin 225?
Meant to say “You’ve never completed an in-depth review.” Should we still expect one?
It dropped to $199 now. I question it’s future.
I’ve been looking at this for months and considering it. It was delayed a long time and few serious reviews. The price has come down and very reasonable. Can anyone who has one answer a couple questions?
1. Can you pair a bluetooth headset and bluetooth heart rate monitor (Mio Link) at the same time? Seems simple enough but a post elsewhere indicated this was a problem.
2. Are people happy with the Strava uploads? Are they quick? Is all the data there?
3. Is there anyone not experiencing the intermittent reboot that is referenced in professional reviews as well as Amazon reviews as a huge problem?
4. Can it display four data fields at the same time (heart rate, pace, distance, time)?
5. Are you happy with the auto-pause/auto-start? For instance, Motoactv auto-pause/auto-start is fair, iphone with Strava app auto-pause/auto-start is really good.
6. How difficult is it to load music since it is not itunes compatible?
7. Has anyone used it with the Jabra Pulse headphones? What was your experience and was the heart rate data accurate? What about other headphones? Is the audio good? Is the connection good? I get skipping with the iphone on a waist belt for instance.
Bart, here are a couple of answers.
1. I have connected a bluetooth heart rate and a bluetooth headphone at the same time. It’s not a quick process, but it can be done.
2. Strava uploads are quick and easy. As soon as you complete a workout it automatically sends the data.
3. I have had multiple issues of the watch rebooting midrun. You lose all of your run data for that workout and it will take several minutes of standing around pressing the screen to get everything connected again.
6. Loading music sucks but it is possible. You have to change the format of your songs. Online directions on how to do this are weak. I had to make multiple calls to Timex.
7. Audio, once you actually get it connected, is good.
****And here’s the lowdown- There hasn’t been an update since the watch was released so it’s buggy as hell (as you would expect from any initial release). Timex continually says an update is in the works but Garmin released the 920/Fenix after the Timex and they have had several updates already. The music feature is cool but with music ON the battery drains really fast. And if you have the tracking feature ON (which allows others to track your workouts, i.e. the point of buying the watch) your battery will drain in an hour. Notice the fine print on the watch doesn’t say you get the tracking feature with 4 hour battery life. One huge hidden kernel is that you can never sell this watch to anyone. When you register it you get a personal Timex email address and profile that is embedded forever, till death do you part. That said, I really like the functionality of the watch and I assume all future watches will go in this direction. Time will tell if Timex actually invests in this watch or walks away. At this point, I would only recommend this watch if all of the following apply:
Your significant other really wants to track you
You keep your runs to less than 2-3 hours
You don’t use the music function
The thought of losing data for half a workout doesn’t bring you to tears
Eric,
Thanks for your response. Your experience seems to be the same as others and disappointing. This review came out a few days ago and points out several deficiencies as well, link to gearist.com. It would seem that music is a major sales pitch for the watch but conversely you can’t load playlists nor can you use the headphones to change tracks. That’s just ridiculous. My motoactv, with it’s years old design, does that with ease. Add to that no ant+, no cycling function, no intervals, etc. I’m just no seeing what this watch does right. I wanted this to be better than the motoactv but it appears to fall short. I now see why Ray has never completed a review. I’m guessing he won’t and gave up on it. I don’t blame him.
I found loading music to be extremely easy. It was drag and drop on my Mac.
Depends on which way you have configured your music on iTunes I guess. It was a complicated mess for me.
Timex finally released their first firmware update earlier this month to correct the watch locking up mid run. They say another firmware update is coming in the next few weeks. How many updates has Garmin had since a similar release date of Feb? They are apparently only supporting this watch to the least amount necessary to keep it on the market. No point in buying it. Walk away!
My phone service provider is Verizon. This the watch still have rthe same capabilities as with AT&T?
Has anyone figured out how to upload thier workouts from the gps one watch to training peaks?
To the best of my knowledge, it’s only possible to upload to Strava. I’ve been back and forth with Timex and they say there is no way to pull the files off of the watch and upload manually to your computer.
It used to be that if you didn’t specify any 3rd party service setup, it would then e-mail you the files. Said files could be manually uploaded to TP.
But I haven’t used/tried it in a while.
This device has been slashed in price recently, down to $199. Any ideas why? I’m guessing a new model is getting ready to come out?
No. This watch appears DOA. Way too many problems. Read the above info and you’ll stay away from this one. If you need tracking, carry a phone. If you want music get the Tom Tom Spark.
Can I use the GPS functionality without using data? just want to run and have the watch track me. I don’t want/need anything else. I know other watches would make sense but Timex is sending me this to replace a broken one (run trainer 2.0) and I am not going to pay for data.
The lesson with this watch is to simply not buy a Timex. Their customer service is horrible and they have limited tech skills. Steer clear and choose another brand.
RAY, I finally got this to pair with the Adidas speed cell. Can you explain how I calibrate the pod. I see how to correct the distance but there is no box to check when done so I can’t get my run to accept the corrected distance. I’m guess you won’t do a in depth review on this. Any news from timex on the next update? BTW, had this in a drawer for 4 months, turned it on with 78% battery left! Not bad.
I have the exact same concern. As soon as you correct the distance, there is no way to accept this new distance and when you return to your run details they are as originally collected. So frustrating–not to mention how sporadic the BT connection is itself. Timex doesn’t realise this could be the best running watch ever had they just invested more effort into the software (AND AVOIDED A TOUCH SCREEN). The touch screen on this is awful–when it works it’s sorta okay, but 80% of the time it’s just a source of annoyance. They should have worked with Garmin, although Garmin is also going down the wrong road with touch screen–almost no serious runner will ever want touch screen, certainly not anyone who sweats or runs with gloves. I’ve tried contacting Timex several times about their watch, but I’ve given up (with such reluctance because the watch has soooo much promise). If you find a way to fix the footpod issue, let me know. One thing they did tell me way back when is that this watch actually has an acceleromter in it and shouldn’t even require a footpod for treadmill use–but it does! Another example of how crappy their software is. I think they’ve abandoned the watch because it sells for 30% of the original cost now. I doubt it sold very well because of all the software bugs. Too bad. Sorta like the electric cars that existed 20 years ago–we may be waiting 5-10 years for Garmin to build their own stand-alone watch. Timex and Qualcom have seemingly no interest in perfecting this product. I already support DCR so I’m not checking the box again.
my onegps+ will not upload, and wont link to strava.
even been on the phone with timex. no ideas, second time i have returned the onegps + for not working. oh well
So I bought one from a 3rd party and called Timex customer support to figure out how to transfer the old owner’s account to my new Timex account. First, they said I needed to email the original owner (what?) and ask him if he would give me access to his account and I could change his details to mine. This would make it so the ATT service plan wouldn’t need to be changed over. Ok, so I bought this off ebay from a store returns reseller…Timex amazingly enough gave me the registered original owner’s email address. Great! But then I thought, if this guy returned the unit to the store, he’s surely not using his Timex email account…email away, but don’t expect a response…
So, Timex then said “We do have the capability of transferring the account to a new owner, let me work on it.” So about a week or two go by with emails back and forth and Timex asking me to reset the watch a few times. Nothing worked. Eventually, they determined the unit was faulty because they could not remotely make changes. They sent me a brand new one. Kudos Timex customer service. All this to say, Timex is aware of the whole reseller issue and does have the ability to transfer the account/ATT service. Oh, and BTW, my new watch came with 3 years of ATT service. All plans were extended to 3 years from the original 1 year.
I really like the watch. I will never use the SOS or Angel functions. Just not necessary for the distances I’m willing to run (don’t hate me, I’m trying to enjoy it, but I mainly do it because my work pays me for PT), and with a battery life as short as it is with everything on, I don’t see how anyone could really use those features. As a straight up GPS running watch, it works great. I had not issues loading music, and after the firmware update, I’ve had no issues. Once it’s found the satellite the first time, it usually takes less than 15-20 seconds to find it from there on out. I’ve paired a wireless headset and HRM with no problems and uploading workouts is seamless and reliable.
As a watch, in airplane mode I get about 4-4.5 days on a charge. Not terrible. If I use it for any amount of running, I just plug it in at the end of the day. No biggie. Maybe it’s because the watch is a little bit of a behemoth, but I get a lot of compliments and “hey that’s cool” comments. With the price reduction and the service plan extension, seems like a good deal for a GPS running watch, as long as you don’t need it for really long runs.
My 2 cents.
Glad they figured that part out. But “We will send you a new watch” has become their blanket answer for every question. I could call about a tech question and they answer is…”we will send you a new one”. There may be nothing wrong with the watch I have but they don’t care enough to try and figure it out or explain anything.
Updates happen sporadically and they can’t tell you what was updated. They won’t take any input on potential problems. They won’t even return phone calls or emails. It consistently drops runs/data mid-workout.
I gotta call out Ray on this one. With all due respect, Ray, this is clearly where watches are headed. It’s a shame that Timex rolled it out when it isn’t quite ready but I think you have done a disservice to your readers by not reviewing the watch. It’s a perfectly capable running watch with a great list of features. But you have ignored it. I theorize you didn’t want to review it because Timex sucks so much that you couldn’t think of a way to write a review that didn’t bash them. But we rely on you to keep the industry honest on our behalf.
I don’t review everything, I simply don’t have the time to do that properly. For example, Garmin released 21 fitness devices last year (2015) alone. I wrote an in-depth review on exactly 6 of them.
I mostly base reviews on interest from readers, and basically there was very little interest here from readers. Like, almost none.
Hi I just saw your post after posting my message (at the bottom). What is the brand of your headset that you are able to successfully connect to your watch? I tried three headsets, still no luck. I will call the Times customer service next if that doesn’t work I will return the watch.
Best,
Zak
Thank you for your in depth review of the Timex Ironman One GPS+. I have just got myself one, and tried connecting to three bluetooth earpieces. It could not connect to the first two (some cheap brands), and I was able to finally pair with a third one (Plantronics Backbeat Go 2 earbuds). However, I still cannot hear the music.
I wanted to ask, have you or has anyone reading this successfully listened to music from their Ironman One GPS+ via bluetooth earbuds or earpieces? If so what is the brand of the earbud/earpiece?
I like the watch, and one big reason why I bought it was being able to listen to music without having to carry my cellphone while I am running, but if I am not able to connect it to three bluetooth earpieces/buds that I bought, I am afraid I will have to return it. :(
A few days after my last post, I was able to connect Plantronics Backbeat Go 2 earbuds to my Timex. Sorry I could not update earlier. So I held on to my Timex.
I have another issue though. If the watch cannot upload a workout for some reason, then seems like it never can. IUnder “data upload” it says “Upload Pending, workouts: 14” so I have 14 pending workouts now. When I press Retry at the same physical location where I was just able to upload another workout (so I am getting the same 3G signal), it still cannot upload the pending workouts.
So I go to history, press “share” and it says “Share successfull”. When I ccheck my email (the email account that I signed up for my timex) and timex account, nowhere I can see an email from timex with the link to my shared workout. So I am puzzled.
When I connect the watch to my PC, I also do not see any folders with the workout files in it.
How can I access these workout files?
I have the Keedox Sweatptoof NFC Bluetooth headset. Pairing the first time can take a few minutes. After that, the device is save on the watch and pairing is almost immediate. Good luck! Let me know if I can help further.
I had the watch for 3 months and then i started having problems recharging and then it stopped recharging altogether. Turns out the connection does not make proper contact so i have to buy another one – ITS NOT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY!
I grabbed some tweasers and pulled on those little copper connectors and they are making contact again…for now. What a crappy design!
I WISH Timex would pay attention to all the customer complaints about this aspect of their design and also stand behind their product. Right now i would not recommend this watch to anyone.
The other thing that really irks me about this watch is the fact that you cannot access the watch manually and grab the workout files from your computer. So if you don’t upload it the first time after a workout you cant download it at all…[yea, i followed the recovery instructions and they dont work!]
good thing i won this watch otherwise i would be pretty bent out of shape
My watch is still dropping runs mid workout. They said this issue would be fixed in an upcoming software update but there hasn’t been a new software release since last September! Absolute piece of crap. And made worse by the customer service. Worst customer service department I have EVER encountered. Ever. No one cares about the watch or your complaint nor can you get in touch with a manager. Good riddance Timex.
I’ve had my watch just over a year and it’s worked fine for the most part. The other day after a run, it shut itself down, the way it does when the power is low. This seemed a little odd — I charge it between runs — but I thought perhaps I just hadn’t seated the cable correctly or something. Well, it’s been “charging” for nearly 48 hours and it won’t turn on. I don’t know if the watch is dead, the cable is shot, both… It’s really frustrating, and I’m not sure what to do. Anybody have similar problems or, better yet, ideas on what to do?
PS: If I have to replace it, does anybody else make a (stand-alone) watch with an “SOS” feature? That’s the whole reason I bought this thing. I’m diabetic and I don’t like to carry my phone with me. It was nice piece of mind to know I could send an emergency text if I needed assistance.
If you contact customer support, they’ll probably replace it. I’m not aware of another watch that has the SOS feature, but I wouldn’t say I’m completely familiar with everything out there, given how often new products hit the market.
Try contacting Steve, at SAbouem@Timex.com. He was great to work with.
By “great to work with” I assume you mean he will just offer to send you a refurbished watch as long as you pay shipping. In my many, many attempts to get any kind of answer out of customer service from Timex I always come away frustrated. They will not let you speak to technical service reps so any answer you get is from a general rep that will just offer to send you a different watch. Timex reps can’t even tell you what was changed in any of the updates, when the last update came out, when another update will come out, or answer basic tech questions. Not my idea of a responsive company.
Has anyone actually used the Times GPS+ unit internationally – specifically in Australia and New Zealand. My wife is running in two Half Marathons there in the next two months and I would really like to track her at these events. In Ray’s initial review of it he mentioned that it will work overseas, but that was before the unit was actually released for sale.
Hi all…..
The Timex ironman web has left the service for new account or watch register. What can we do the people with new but non activated watch? Customer says we can not do more than turn back the watch. Any idea?
Thanks in advance!!
Yes, they have discontinued offering new accounts for the One GPS+ if you are buying a new watch. However, if you get a watch replaced though their repair process they can reset your account and you can then activate the watch. You can still buy new watches but they will be useless without the online account to activate.
Timex says they are still going to be offering software updates for the watch but I can’t imagine that happening based on their minimal commitment to this watch from the start. So this watch is a dud.
Timex has indicated that on January 1, 2017 their One GPS + watch will no longer be able to connect to AT&T’s cellular network. Furthermore, Timex says there is no way for them to issue a firmware update to allow data uploads via USB or bluetooth once the cellular connectivity is gone. Therefore, it would appear that it will soon be impossible in any way to upload any data to Strava, view maps of your activities, etc. Their only suggested workaround is to manually type in the distance travelled in Strava, etc., but that is obviously not a satisfactory solution.
Thanks for the update. That’s very disappointing! Truthfully, I could live without the Strava upload. But the ENTIRE reason I bought/use the watch is for the emergency notification feature. Without that, it’s largely worthless because if I have to carry my phone anyway, there are far better watches to use.
Does anyone know if ANYBODY has plans for a watch with a similar feature (i.e, the ability to send an emergency message without also needing to have a phone on hand)? If so, please let me know; I’m in the market!
I also got that message. Inability to upload your workouts in any way by itself makes the gps watch practically useless. They say they are giving a one time discount code of 50% and a $50 visa gift card, but I think I just want money back. What do you all think?
Zak,
You gotta complain a little more. I was an early adopter and in the two years I had with this watch it spent more than half of its time either back at Timex for a replacement or simply not working. They gave me a full refund for the original purchase price after the watch was bricked on Jan 1.
I didn’t get a notification of any kind. No watch message and no email. My service just stopped working. I too want my money back. This is on top of dumb stuff like accidentally sending an email to the user base without Bccing anyone so all user’s personal info is disclosed.
Timex has created a complete brand terrorist in me. I’ll never buy another product from them again nor will have anything positive to say about them unless they make this right.
I don’t blame you for not wanting to ever get anything from Timex in the future. I feel the same way. If I were you I would definitely argue for a refund, explaining the gravity of them allowing for the lapse in cell service. Unfortunately, I am uncertain whether they have learned from their mistake as at least one customer service rep that I contacted was unwilling to even acknowledge that it was a mistake to not provide some kind of fallback upload mechanism such as bluetooth to compensate for the absence of cellular connectivity. I hope nobody belatedly discovers the lack of cellular service at the very moment that they attempt to summon help from the watch.
If Timex has taken this decision with this watch …. would it be possible to access the firmware to make modifications? Would anyone know how to do it? Any computer programmers around here?
A Qualcomm worker talking about the watch platform…: link to linkedin.com
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Geneva is Qualcomm’s next generation wearable platform which aims to revolutionize body area network devices and its eco system. The service layer enables apps to access peripherals (BLE fitness sensors HRM, Foot Pods and BT headsets) and GPS to enable location based services (like SOS) and control workouts and finally be able to manage and upload to fitness sites (Strava, Map My Fitness, Run Keeper etc.) /social share them (FB, Twitter Post) via the Geneva Server over the Device-Server Interface using HTTP
• Developed the Platform Abstraction Layer (PAL) for the Qualcomm GPS One engine, BLE profiles which abstracts data transfer over Blue Tooth with LE Wearable/Fitness peripheral devices – Heart Rate Monitors (HRMs) and Pedometers (Foot Pods) using GAP and GATT profiles – HRP and RSCP
• Designed, implemented core features in Activity Service -responsible for managing workout and track point data to be uploaded to Fitness Sites via Geneva Server, Peripheral Service – managing BLE fitness sensors and BT headsets and Feature Management Service -interfacing with server for service enablement
• Inter service communication achieved via Service Broker following Mediator Design Pattern
• Developed route algorithms -filter, smoothing, calorie which improves the GPS position fix form the GPS One engine based on specific filters defined by systems engineering – no of satellite vehicles (SVs), HEPE (Horizontal Estimated Position Error), SNR of the SVs, velocity, PDOP (Positional Dilution of Precision) etc.
• Characterized different headsets for tuning the BT Pairing (Bonding) security negotiation method SSP (Simple Secure Pairing) for BT 3.0 (classic) stack as well for BT 4.1 stack in the PAL layer
Commercial product built on this platform: Timex One GPS+ running on Qualcomm’s QSC 6270 chipset
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Any ideas?