COROS appears to be coming out of their winter hibernation with a bang for existing customers. While COROS had gotten themselves into a loose monthly-ish firmware update cycle most of the last few years, things got pretty quiet since December. However, they’re now making up for that with a slate of sweeping changes across app, firmware, pricing, and more. These changes clearly aim to increase their competitiveness in the market. I’ll dive into a number of them, but here’s the quick-hit list of what’s changing:
– COROS Pace 2 gets firmware update enabling navigation
– COROS Vertix 2 & Apex 2/Apex 2 Pro can manage maps via WiFi/app
– COROS Vertix 2 & Apex 2/Apex 2 Pro can store 30 routes instead of 10
– Navigation & Mapping in the COROS app no longer sucks, and is actually good now
– COROS Smartphone App Gets User Interface Overhaul
– EvoLab gets upgraded to 2.0 version with more tests/scores
– COROS APEX 2/APEX 2 Pro get $50/80EUR price drop
– Existing COROS APEX 2/APEX 2 Pro users get a $50/80EUR COROS.com credit
– COROS adds support for Google Health Connect, HRV4Training, Fourth Frontier, Intervals.icu, and Dangelo
These features roll out starting May 5th, 2023, however the public beta period starts today, April 20th, 2023.
Navigation & Explore Feature:
First up is COROS’s new navigation & mapping area called ‘Explore’. This allows you to now create routes within the COROS app directly. Previously, you had to go elsewhere, do a big dance of importing, and then even worse if you wanted to add waypoints. Now you can just tapity-tap your way to creating a route, including adding Waypoints (complete with unique icons/labels).
With that, is the ability to easily find routes, as well as apply a ton of search filters to finding routes (including even by source such as Strava or Komoot). This is by far the best filtering implementation I’ve seen to date – and other companies should look at this as an example for how to make the ever-growing task of route collections easier to manage.
Now, once you’ve created a route, you can go ahead and send it to your watch. With this change, the VERTIX 2 & APEX 2 series watches see the in-watch route memory increase from 10 routes to 30 routes, which is appreciated. You still will have to send these manually though by choosing the watch you want to send it to. I like that this is now managed centrally, and then you choose which watch to send it to, rather than before it was buried on a per-watch basis.
Still, COROS really needs to implement automatic sync for routes from Strava/Komoot to their devices. Of course, with the even-new 30-route limit being so low, that’s probably a factor. Nonetheless, I shouldn’t need yet more steps.
Anyways, with that set, you can now send routes to the COROS Pace 2. This is a huge upgrade for this sub-$200 watch, which never supported routing/navigation previously. Now it does, via breadcrumb-trail style routes. You’ll choose the sport, and then go into settings and load up the route you want. You can see an elevation profile, change whether to run the course normal or in reverse, as well as change the map orientation.
Once you start the course, you’ll see the planned route, and get any course deviation alerts accordingly. Additionally, if on other data pages, you’ll get a heading/route indicator so you know which way to go.
Both the map page and the elevation page are zoomable using the little digital crown:
This all works basically the same as the COROS Vertix 2 or APEX series does. The key difference though being that on the higher-end watches you’ll also have underlying maps, like those seen below:
Which is a great segue to the new WiFi Map Manager feature.
Map Manager:
Previously, downloading maps on the COROS Vertix 2 was a pain in the butt, but now it’s easy to do with WiFi and the COROS app. For watches that support maps, you can now download maps directly, quickly, and easily. On the app you’ll choose your device, then choose map manager.
From there you can pick any of the map tiles to download. They seem to be pretty small storage-wise, with this one for the Netherlands-ish area taking up only 18MB. Of course, COROS’s maps don’t have all the extra data of other map sets, thus they can save a ton of space that way.
It’ll then ask for WiFi to connect and download the map, and you can choose a WiFi network for the watch to use:
At that point, off it goes to download the tiles you selected:
This is so much better than in the past. This is, again, a rough model for what I think Garmin should do for their maps. Right now, you basically choose an entire continent/region. And while that’s handy to know ‘you’ve got it all’, it’s also a pain in the butt when you travel and really only need a very small slice of things. The ability to select some tiles makes this a heck of a lot easier. Alternatively, other companies sometimes do per-country or per-state sets, which is something that COROS could do as well to make it a bit faster/easier to get what you want. But that’s probably just personal preference.
App Interface Update:
Now as part of things they’ve revamped a bunch of the app UI, and it looks pretty darn good. It begins to transition away from per-watch things, and making it a bit more ‘global’ across your account. Previously a lot of tasks required you open up a specific watch and then do the task within that watch, which got messy if you had two watches, or more notably, if your watch wasn’t connected at the time.
Additionally, as noted earlier, they’ve added support for Google Health Connect, HRV4Training, Fourth Frontier, Intervals.icu, and Dangelo. Google Health Connect is notable, as it also opens up connectivity to Peloton, WeightWatchers, MyFitnessPal, and Google Fit.
EvoLab 2.0
Next, there are a slate of EvoLab updates. EvoLab is their physiological training load and recovery suite. These updates are ones I haven’t yet had time to go out and do some running tests with, I was hoping to this morning, but I’m already running dangerously late for a flight.
Thus, here’s the long and the short of it: They’ve significantly changed the thresholds for ‘unlocking’ EvoLab, to being just a single 25-minute run outdoors with 60% of your max heart rate. This still does require a run, so if you’re a cyclist, that’s still unfortunate for you. In addition, as part of this, they’ve added a new Running Fitness test and Resting Heart Rate test. The running fitness test looks properly painful, here’s the structure of it, from COROS:
“Warm-up: 5min (can be paused and/or skipped)
During the testing phases you cannot pause or skip any section
test 1: 25min
- Estimated to be your marathon pace
Test 2: 3 min
- Estimated to be your 10km race pace, or Lactate Threshold
Test 3: 3 min
- Estimated to be your Lactate Threshold and higher, about 5km pace
Test 4: 3 min
- Slightly faster pace than Test 3, if your heart rate has reached 90% of your heart rate reserve or higher during Test 3, Test 4 will not appear and the test will end early
Test 5: 3 min
- Slightly faster pace than Test 4, if your heart rate has reached 90% of your heart rate reserve or higher during Test 4, Test 5 will not appear and the test will end early
Cooldown – 5 min (can be paused and/or skipped)”
In this test you’ll initially input your best recent 10KM time, merely so they can estimate your other times.
As you can see, it’ll guide you through that test, giving you threshold pace/heart rate/and your Max HR. Looks painful enough, and in the ballpark of what other companies do for running tests.
Meanwhile, the Resting HR ‘test’, is merely just sitting for 30 seconds and getting a RHR reading. That’s…uhh…kinda it. It then saves it into the app. This is opposed to doing background RHR calculations.
Now, back on the EvoLab 2.0 unlocking and longer-term data bit, this drives calculations for your fitness indicator, or basically, what it thinks you’re capable of from a prediction standpoint. I just want to take a moment and include a giant swath of data from their beta guide. Partially to show you that they’ve put some thought behind this (something many of us argued seemed lacking in 1.0), and, perhaps more importantly, to show you the depth of their beta guides. This is really comprehensive stuff:
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Evolab 2.0 Improvements:
- The new EvoLab analysis will build the estimations and predictions on a time-pace model using your best performance in different time duration.
- Only the previous 90 days will be taken into consideration
- To unlock EvoLab data, a user must first record an outdoor run of 25 minutes or longer at 60% of Max Heart Rate or higher
- Any further Run activity recorded longer than 30 seconds will impact your predicated benchmark data, there is no upper limit. The core principle in this new model considers your “Best performance in the last 90 days” to be the best indicator of current fitness
- The data is not based on absolute pace values, but rather is converted into the Effort Pace equivalent, which considers slope and historical heart rate data to make predictions.
- If you do not record a run for 90 days or more, the model will be rebuilt once a new activity is recorded.
X-axis is measured in seconds, Y-axis in m/s
- Time-pace model construction method adopts three-parameter model
The three key parameters are:
- Pmax (1s maximum speed)
- W’ (anaerobic work, about 1 min can run the longest distance)
- CP (lactate threshold)
Through daily running data, the above three parameters will be recorded to build a predictive model.
- Accuracy of the model compared to lab testing (80% of users can achieve the following accuracy):
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Now, there’s tons more data in their beta guide, but the end resultant is a revamped page that shows this Running Fitness breakdown graph (this is a sample one from the guide):
Again, I’m looking forward to doing a bit of testing with this, and seeing how it fares compared to others.
Pricing Update:
Now, last but not least, let’s talk pricing. Actually, I lied, this is least. It’s the least exciting, which is why I stuck it at the end. And honestly, it’s also the least motivating.
COROS is dropping the price of their APEX 2 and APEX 2 Pro watches. As you might remember, when they launched last fall I said they were simply overpriced, and many other reviewers (and customers) noted roughly similar pricing thoughts. COROS’s challenge was exceptionally simple: The far-more-full-featured Garmin Forerunner 955 was priced at $499. The singular thing the FR955 didn’t have was a titanium top bezel plate that the COROS APEX 2 PRO did, but it made up for it with a million other features, not the least of which was quite a bit better GPS accuracy.
Fast forward to now, and COROS is reducing their pricing for the two models:
Existing buyers will get a COROS.com credit for that amount, good till the end of the year. I’ll give COROS credit here, nobody else gives their customers a ‘credit’ for a price reduction 6 months later. That’s good pro-consumer stuff.
That said, I still don’t think it’s quite low enough. With their competitors having launched even more watches in that price ballpark, it makes the APEX 2 and 2 Pro even more tricky at these price points. There are no good options here for any company in this price ballpark. The competition in the last 3-5 years, squeezed by both Apple and Samsung in the more mainstream realm, and Garmin in the sports realm, has made this $300-$500 price bucket incredibly hard to compete in.
Wrap-Up:
Overall this is a very impressive suite of new features, both firmware updates for watches, but also the app side is getting quite a bit better. And it’s getting better not just in a ‘new features’ way, but also in a usability way. The revamped UI is becoming more modern looking, while also making it better for users that have multiple devices or want to manage things in a more central way.
The fact that they’re adding navigation to the sub-$200 COROS pace is super impressive, and will undoubtedly nudge their competitors to lower the course threshold on some units as well. As I’ve often remarked about COROS – they are most deadly when they focus on value rather than trying to compete at the top-end. That top end is incredibly difficult to compete in, versus COROS’s ability to quickly roll out features and do so at very competitive price points lower down the watch range, which is what got them to where they are today.
So overall, kudos to COROS on this update – it’s well done.
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Any new modes for the Pace 2? Skiing? Trail running?
Any update on more reasonable music file management, or Spotify integration? If I swap from coros to garmin this will be the #1 reason for it.
Would love to buy that Apex 2 KJ edition but it’s so hard to leave Garmin ecosystem :(
You can probably get at least your activities over to Garmin using the RunGap app, if that helps.
Here is a quick way to get around this problem for you.. :)
link to support.coros.com
Will the running fitness test be available on the “old” Apex watches? I’d love that.
It’s available for old Apex Pro. Original Apex 46&42 are not getting firmware updates anymore for more than a year (internal memory is depleted). But even then they can still benefit from new app :)
Unfortunately I have Apex 42, so I am aware of the no updates. :)
Honestly I would give up the ski sports from my watch for this funcion.
Ray, is the mapping on the Apex/Vertix still essentially breadcrumbs on top of a map image, or have they become location aware and offering turn-by-turn directions?
Add to that, does the Pace 2 update offer turn by turn navigation prompts or is it simply showing your position on top of a breadcrumb image?
The distance to finish screen does make it seem like they are now more location aware.
There is no turn-by-turn navigation yet. And no, no location awarness, it’s still the image on top of breadcrumb.
It looks like there is a way to manually add turn-by-turn directions to a gpx file, at present for Apex/Vertix. Search Coros help online for “Adding Turn-by-Turn Directions on GPX File”.
I have a Pace2, so I can’t test this. It would be nice if the upcoming update enabled turn-by-turn without having to use third party tools.
Here is a link to the article
link to support.coros.com
Cool to see nav coming to Pace 2.
There seems to be a bug in the Training Peaks integration, the heart rate zones get scrambled upon download with the BPMs not corresponding to the zone. Have noticed that it takes Coros at least a week to respond to support requests. Is this common, and any sense of whether they might be addressing it?
Hi Ray, thanks for this very informative post! Lots of interesting updates from Coros, and the Pace2 is now an even greater watch than before, for 200€!
I tried the Pace 2 one year ago and was really impressed, except for the optical HR accuracy (at least in my case). Compared with the HR strap and my good old polar M430, it didn’t really do well… that’s the reason why I returned it and went back to my old M430.
Do you know if in the last year or so, Coros improved optical HR on the Coros Pace2 via firmware upgrades? How would you rate the Pace2 optical HR compared to other “similar” watches (e.g. Polar Pacer Pro, Garmin FR255/265)?
My M430’s battery is slowly dying and I was looking at the Polar Pacer Pro or the Garmin FR255, but the Pace2 would acutally save me a lot of money!
It is quite accurate *with a strap*.
Yeah, well… I got used to run without a HR strap, my polar M430 does a good job with optical HR, wouldn’t like to go back wearing a chest strap :D
Went from M430 to Garmin because of battery dying and am really happy I got the OH1/Verity Sense arm strap.
It’s more accurate than the wrist sensors because of the upper arm position and you don’t really feel it’s there.
This is huge, Pace 2 with breadcrumb navigation and its huge battery life for a budget watch has no competition in its price range and even slightly above. Next step up is Forerunner 255 which costs twice as much. What’s even better is that it appears like you can manually create trail running routes via Coros app, which Garmin can’t do outside of its website ecosystem! Good job Coros.
The Suunto 5Peak – and the Suunto App is very similar (and offers breadcrumb navigation since it was released) for under 199.- too
Could be an alternative, but screen is much worse, watch is heavier, no website.
Very nice report Ray! One remark though – you are mentioning they really need to implement routes synchronization with Strava – this has been already implemented year and half ago link to dcrainmaker.com
Hi Roman-
Sorta. While that is there, what is missing though (and perhaps I poorly worded it above), is that it doesn’t automatically sync to the watch. Their competitors will take starred/favorited routes, and instantly sync them all the way to the watch. Whereas COROS plops it into the saved routes on the app, and then you need to manually choose it and sync it.
Cheers!
The Vertix 2 is also overpriced…still no price drop?
And the big arrow for navigation is also a pain in the butt in my eyes.
Any improvment in the coordinate system support for Vertix 2? Quite ridicolus to call Vertix 2 an out Doors watch, as long as it only support lat/long and MGRS…
All sounds very nice and proactive.
Just a request (presumably minor…) it would be massively appreciated if at the top or bottom (or both!) of update posts like this you linked to your existing reviews of the products mentioned — unless I’m being daft and you did, but I could find and ended up having to resort to search for pace 2 review, not the end of the world but easier if within the article :)
Doh, good catch.
Take this Wahoo :-(
Navigation and more fitness-features still missing (e.g. fatigue-tracking)…
It’s all good and nice but as a cyclists that regularly does weight lifting, when will we see Fatigue and Recovery data based of anything else that is not running, maybe something more similar to Polar?
Was waiting to see if you were going to do a review of the Decathlon Kiprun GPS 900!
I’d love to see it, as so many ‘influencers’ out there, are, for some reason, raving about it. 😉🥹
So come on Ray, it’s time to lay down a ‘strava’ like review of this piece of %^$^ (hmmm, sorry device)
“Our designers teamed up with COROS to develop this multi-sport GPS watch that measures running, swimming, cycling, triathlon, trail running and hiking.
Looking for a smart watch to accompany you during your training sessions and competitions? We propose this GPS watch with COROS technologies that have already been endorsed by top athletes.”
Is it not a Coros Pace 2 in a more polished case? If that is the case, it will be a good buy, especially with Decathlon discount coupons.
It’s Apex 46mm with different style of bezzel and it’s made of aluminium and gorilla glass (instead of titanium and sapphire). Rest of the watch is probably the same.
Sweet. The Apex retails for £260 while decathlon is selling the Kiprun GPS 900 for £200.
Very interesting indeed. It looks like this is an original Apex with slight updates that enable it to run Pace 2 software.
I would love to see a review. My key question is: How long do we think that the watch will get updates.
Would you choose the GPS900 now that the Pace 2 also does breadcrumb navigation?
GPS 900 over Pace 2
– Gorilla glass
– Aluminium bezel and back cover
– Has winter activities workout modes, but only triathlon mode
Pace 2 over GPS 900
– ANT+
– Has multisport support
Have you checked out Suunto’s new Training Zone/Suunto Coach (App Beta version)? I think it’s darn good, with very comprehensive textual feedback.
Does the new FW on the Pace2 still annoyingly require you to select the Ant device to connect to if you have multiples paired or does it auto connect again?
Pace 2 owner here: what an AWEOSME update. Coros does not dissapoint!
The Coros app integrates various advantages of Garmin and Suunto, such as the ability to plan routes on maps. Although the Suunto market is declining, it cannot be denied that the Suunto app still has its own characteristics, and the Garmin app feels a bit chaotic. Personal opinions.
Are there any rumours about the release of a new Pace (pace 3?)?
Thank you very much Ray for all the very complete information you bring us!
The lack of navigation was #1 reason for me for not keeping Pace 2 – so huge kudos for that addition.
Other than that I find Coros ecosystem much more useful for real athletes – night light is great, I find the TrainingHub on PC probably the best platform for seeing my progress and I hope that with EvoLab2.0 it will get even better.
Pace 2 might be once more an interesting budget option – especially if your focus is on training and not on lifestyle.
Hi,
Is Pace 2 support directional arrow (i’m not talking about turn by turn) ?
I can sse it on other models videos, but not on your article screenshots.
Thanks
I just tried out the navigation on my run this morning, and yes, there is a directional arrow. I never used an Apex, so I didn’t know about the arrow and it came as a pleasant surprise. Unfortunately, I didn’t know about zooming in with the wheel, so the breadcrumb trail itself was too small to be useful on this run. I’ll be sticking with my Garmin Edge for bike navigation, but breadcrumb trail is good enough for running.
any update on when an app or firmware update is going to come out and fix the stuff in evolab that was broken by the spring update? running fitness doesn’t update anymore, minimal changes to vo2max/threshold pace/threshold heart rate for months, recovery metrics that swing too far in each direction etc,? At one point they said july update, that came and went, then hopefully august, I know there’s a beta test right now, but as a pace 2 owner I can’t access.