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What a beast! I bought one in October and 10 years and >40k virtual Kilometers later, it’s still in heavy Rotation. It has seen quite some bikes come and go and worked well with all of them. Unbreakable in my case. And playing a big part for getting & staying fit. So much kudos!
Very interesting to see the major “evolution” over this pretty short time span!
In this context, is there any information on whether we can expect a new version of the kickr or neo in the next months?
Thanks!
I’d love to know that as well =D All those xx% off are saying so but…
Thanks Wahoo!
I’m a happy wahoo customer with many of their products:1 kickr core, 2 bolt, 1 desk, pedals and some other sensors and I hope they keep pushing hard to continue making great products!
Thanks for the reminder history lesson (even though I lived it). I hope Saris/Clycleops stays in biz. (FWIW, they’re selling their great H3 hammer for 20% off right now- solid deal on a fine, quiet direct drive trainer.
I just wish WAHOO hadn’t killed off Speedplay x-series cleats. I won’t forgive them for that.
Ha! Just yesterday a friend dropped off his Computrainer Setup since he didn’t want it any longer…I’m thinking I might try to figure out how to couple the load generator to an old LeMond Revolution I still have hanging around…both of which you touched on above. I must have a bit of “Chip” (engineer/tinkerer) in me as well ;-)
Amazing to see how far we’ve come in 10 years. It seems like both “yesterday” and “a lifetime ago.” (heck, a full quarter of that was during a pandemic)
One bit of trainer history I’d love to see you go down the rabbit hole on: “mule bikes.” More specifically: the idea that you can buy a smart trainer and put an actual bike on it, or you jump right to a smart bike, but nobody has offered a “trainer-only frame”.
There’s a post on the Zwift forum that hints at the evolutionary dead-end: link to forums.zwift.com
The trainer bikes were built up with 105 10 speed running gear from a heap of low spec Giant road bikes and then the unused frames were sold off.”
I would love to see a company offer such a thing as a standalone product. I feel like there’s a market for it.
Like you, I assumed bike manufacturers would recognise there was a market for a “trainer only” bike. When I bought my TACX Neo about 4 years ago I contacted several “build to order” bike companies in the UK asking if they could supply a bike with a Shimano 105 drivetrain but no brakes and no rear wheel. Probably not a huge saving but why buy them if you don’t need them? Every company I contacted told me it was “not possible” to supply a bike with only a front wheel and treated me like an idiot for even suggesting it. As it clearly is possible the only explanation is that they couldn’t be bothered to consider it. So, I decided I didn’t want to do business with any company that had so little regard for a fairly simple customer request and I bought a nearly new road bike off eBay.
It’s only simple if you ignore the reality present. For one, unless they develop a fully adjustable frame setup, they’d need to offer this “trainer bike” in about 4-6 sizes like you see in a typical bike model. That is needed to cover a range of rider sizes at the very least, so you need new SKU’s for each model.
Then consider the reality of getting components for the bike with the exception of the brakes, rear wheel and anything else you’d rather not have for this use case. Shimano and SRAM don’t offer kits like this so the bike company would end up with “extra” parts that would presumably need to find a home to justify their related cost that is part of a complete group. Trek & Specialized are getting these complete, in bulk more than hand picking ala-cart.
And then shipping would require at least a bit of change since you’d not include a rear wheel (presuming wheel-off trainer use here, but that’s not entirely certain or absolute either). Most bikes are shipped partly assembled with the rear wheel on, and front wheel off. This might be the exact opposite or something unique. In any event, their already established packing protocol would need a change.
All that is far from ‘simple’ when you get down to real details. I get it… people just want a stripped down bike and it seems that leaving a few parts of seems like an easy option, but it’s not.
At that point you’d be better off with an integrated wheel stand instead of a front wheel too. I think mine’s been flat for several years on the old road bike I use for the trainer.
Yup, I agree that a stand instead of a wheel would be appropriate.
I know that one euro builder offered a size adjustable “dumb bike” that had the option for adding just a drivetrain. Fixed fork and bar that was more like a spin bike than anything, but shaped more like a regular bike. Cool concept, but from the feedback I read, the maker did not do a great job of providing or supporting the product.
I think there is an opening for something in this market, but nailing it in a cost effective package may be a challenge. It’s a bit odd to sell a bike that’s not a bike and totally incomplete until you add a trainer. If it’s not priced well, there may be limited advantage vs a cheap road bike. Key in this idea for me, would be making a single frame widely size adjustable so one bike fits all. That is a selling point for the smart bikes and would make sense to include in this not-a-bike bike idea.
Chad, this is the internet! You’re not allowed to be logical, rational, sensible, etc.. 😂
That said, I reckon the easiest way to get a super cheap trainer only bike is probably a garage sale!
LOL, curse my Vulcan-like engineer brain :P
Indeed, the cheap option is a used bike via CL, FB and any other local resource. I like the idea of a stripped bike for sure, but it’s just a new direction the industry may not see yet.
So, what would be your best guess about how many Kickrs have been sold over the course of this decade?
Napkin math I’d put it between 1.5m and 3m, maybe as high as 4m. Numbers are a bit fuzzy once we hit peak COVID times, and then the last year with the ensuing pullback. Also contributing to fuzz is exact breakout between KICKR/CORE/SNAP.
My first Wahoo product was my fitness key (2014). Soon after that I bought a Gen1 Kickr, the original ELEMNT, then the first of several BOLTs, then a Gen2 KICKR, RIVAL, ROAM, Gen2 Bolt. My only disappointment was the bezel width on the ROAM. My Gen2 kickr had some issues but was replaced every time, no fuss.
I have recommended and given away many BOLTs – people just prefer them to Garmin.
Congrats to Chip and team on this anniversary. I am really looking forward to a narrow bezel ROAM :)
As someone who worked with Greg on the LeMond Revolution (and watched him put out major watts while tuning it), I’m glad it was included in this recap as it was the start of both direct drive technology and real road feel (but defiantly not the quiet trainer trend).
It was fun to take a blast into the past and read your thoughts a from back then. My favorite parts was the line near the end that said “the trainer itself is $499, which is admittedly a bit steep for a trainer.” At the time, anything over a couple hundred dollars was unheard of.
I moved from the CompuTrainer to the Kickr mainly for direct drive – too many trainer flats before then. Haven’t looked back – I still have that original Kickr (used with TrainerRoad).
The one thing I really miss from CompuTrainer were the Real Course Videos. I trained for St. George using one, and don’t understand why nobody else has really come out with an equivalent. That habit is probably why I couldn’t ever get into Zwift despite being an early beta tester – the fact that their interval efforts didn’t line up with their graphics just never made sense to me.
I am not tri route expert, but Rouvy has at least a few of those pre-ride videos. I also think that FulGaz does and will likely add more since Ironman bought them a while ago.
Both of those offer the option to control the trainer and match the effective grades of the course.
Worth a look at those at the very least and maybe someone else knows of more options.
I’ve also never really caught the Zwift game bug. I prefer real videos myself, although rarely use them as I mostly do ERG using my Garmin Edge.
I’ll second Chad. I did several Ironman VRs and trained for St George using the Rouvy app last year. It did not have the exact route used for St George 70.3 in 2021 but whatever, close enough.
Haven’t keep track much lately, but since Ironman bought Fulgaz they have been adding courses to Fulgaz.
I’d still love to buy a direct drive computrainer. The wired interface was annoying, but more reliable and responsive than my kickr/kickr core. And my computrainer was still functioning when I eventually tossed it, where every wahoo product I’ve owned has failed at far too early of an age.
I liked my wheel on BKOOL trainer. I was disappointed when they never launched their next generation. The BKOOL software was also innovative in that one could upload a Strava file and create a route.
I wonder.. what would it take for a similar revolution to happen in the fitness side of the world (the various peloton, ifit, spinning, stationary bikes etc)?
What did you have in mind? Peloton seems to be that revolution from a distance. You’re thinking maybe more open standards with people free to use Peleton’s workouts on some other manufacturer’s bike or vice versa?
I’d agree, Peloton certainly hits that when it comes to the consumer experience. After all, they make more bikes (and still do), each quarter than the entire Wahoo/Tacx/Wattbike/Stages SB20* continent has in total, ever.
That said, assuming your talking open standards for bikes. I actually think that might be reasonably close. Peloton has very openly talked and more recently (like, months into days) about running their platform on 3rd party bikes, and being about the platform/subscription, rather than the hardware it’s running on.
Wes Salmon from Zwift jumped over to Peloton a few months ago, and Wes was in charge of hardware partner integration at Zwift. Basically, the guy that deal with all the 3rd party platforms and having it all work as a ecosystem. He was always a bit limited by management on what was possible, but if there’s anyone who can complete that nudge for Peloton, it’s Wes.
The cool thing is that Peloton bike’s already support ANT+ today (for HR). And they support other non-power open standards (Cadence BLE for app, and HR on BLE/ANT for everything). So really, this comes down to power.
I could see the case easily made that it’d be a heck of a lot easier to just integrate the app with existing trainers/bikes using the existing power spec. Because again, that’s literally what their CEO keeps saying in interviews, investor calls, etc…
Now, perhaps there’s some internal hill to die on being against this. But Peloton’s CEO has made it abundantly (if not painfully) clear that there are no hills left that are sacred. I’m pretty sure he even said exactly that in one interview. So, I’d say there’s a reasonably strong change Peloton could adopt power standards in some way. And if they do, just like with Wahoo, the flood gates open.
*Stages also sells to gyms and has forever, but that’s an entirely different beast of a bike, so set that aside.
I would have thought the anniversary would be a nice moment to launch KICKR V6. It was already on sale on a Dutch webship (futurumshop) last weekend but they removed it beginning of this week (embargo I guess).
From the description it did not read as having many changes to V5, just addition of Wi-Fi direct connect.
But I am sure a detailed DCR review will be up as soon as embargo is lifted ;-)