The Week in Review is a collection of both all the goodness I’ve written during the past week around the internet, as well as a small pile of links I found interesting – generally endurance sports related. I’ve often wondered what to do with all of the coolness that people write, and while I share a lot of it on Twitter and Facebook, this is a better forum for sending it on to y’all. Most times these different streams don’t overlap, so be on the lookout at all these places for good stuff!
So with that, let’s get into the action!
Sports Tech Deals of Note:
We’re currently in the lull between Amazon Prime Day a few weeks back, and the start of Black Friday type sales in November. Still, there’s some decent options out there. Oh, you can always access all deals at dcrainmaker.com/deals
This is the go-to sale price for the Fitbit Charge 6. It happens often, but it still doesn't take away from the fast that it's argueably the best bang for your buck fitness tracker out there.
This is a good deal, especially since it's gotten virtually all of the Edge 1050 updates, and then a boatload more. That said, it wouldn't surprise me to see this drop further to $449, as it did this past summer.
⚡⚡This is the lowest price we've seen on the Garmin Edge 540 to date, which has gained virtually all of the new Garmin Edge 1050 features as well. This is kinda an insane deal for this unit.
⚡⚡This is the lowest price we've seen on the Garmin Edge 840 to date, which has gained virtually all of the new Garmin Edge 1050 features as well. This is one of my main units I use daily.
⚡ This is the lowest price to date for the Garmin Epix Pro series, likely due to the Fenix 8 coming out a few months back (Epix as a brand was merged into the Fenix 8 branding). Still, if you don't care about diving or voice bits, this is an incredible deal.
⚡⚡⚡ This is a crazy super strong deal. Note the Epix received all of the software updates of the Epix Pro. This deal keeps floating between $399 and $429 - frankly, at either price it's an awesome deal.
⚡ This is the lowest price to date for the Garmin Fenix 7 Pro series, likely due to the Fenix 8 coming out a few months back. Still, if you don't care about diving or voice bits, this is an incredible deal.
This is the first time we've head a meaningful sale on the Forerunner 165, released earlier this year, down to $249 for the Music edition, and $199 for the non-music edition.
This is Garmin's mid-tier running watch, and is a very polished option with good multi-band GPS, and of course, a boatload of running metrics. This model also includes offline music such as Spotify and Amazon Music.
This is one of Garmin's most popular running watches, and it's down to a very strong price. I often use this in my accuracy testing comparisons when validating other watches, due to it's very strong GPS performance. Note this is the base edition without solar. It'd be hard to find any better deal in sports watches today, from any company (given this has full mapping, tons of new features even this week, etc...). I say '$100ish', because it's usually been on forever sale at $499, so $399 is a strong price, though, it dipped to $319 for Amazon Prime Day.
This is the lowest price we've seen ever on the Forerunner 965, since it's launch. It's still Garmin's top-end Forerunner watch, and I expect it to stay that way for a while. It's one I often use in comparative testing as a reference device.
This is a solid deal. Garmin Instinct 2X - $100 off!It's best thought of as an Instinct 2.5, as it has almost enough features to really be more of an Instinct 3 (which doesn't exist at this point).
This is the largest discount we've seen to date on the Tactix 7 Pro unit. Note the other Tactix 7 Pro units/variants are also on sale for 20% off too (this link takes you to all of them).
The new Hero 13 just came out, which mostly just adds a bunch of new accessory options. If you don't plan to purchase those accessories, then this is a solid deal.
This is a great deal for this tiny little thing, which should really be named the Go 4, given how many new features it has (including 4K). It also has all the Insta360 sport integration features with Garmin & Apple, to overlay your Garmin/Apple data automatically on your footage.
This is something I use frequently when shooting out and about and I need to re-charge a crapton of drone batteries, action cameras, or just cameras and such. I also use it on trips to Eurobike and elsewhere to keep equipment charged. I've even bought a solar panel to hook up to it (surprisingly effective). Heck, I've even powered a KICKR trainer ride from it!
I mean, I guess. Really, I don't see why anyone would buy this trainer at any price above $299. With the JetBlack Victory at $399 being more accurate, quiter, including WiFi, including Zwift Cog support (or mechanical cassette), including dual-Bluetooth, including Race Mode, and...one could go on and on.
This is the go-to sales price for the NEO 2T, though has become more frequent over the past year. It's still an incredible trainer, and is the top-end non-moving trainer from Garmin/Tacx.
This package includes the KICKR CORE with the Zwift V2 Cog, but notably now also includes the Zwift Play controllers. Basically, this saves you about $100 or so, and is the first time we've seen them bundle it.
⚡⚡ This is actually a very solid deal, and the first time we've seen this discounted. In fact, frankly, this is the first time in years it feels like Wahoo is actually doing a legit sale on something. Kudos.
This is lowest we've ever seen the KICKR SNAP priced. While the trend has moved towards wheel-off/direct drive trainers, this is still really solid deal if your budget it tight. That said, if you're in Europe, Decathlon has the D100 on sale for $199 also, and in my testing, I'd go with that almost every time.
DCRAINMAKER.COM Posts in the Past Week:
Here’s all the goodness that ended up on the main page this past week:
Here’s a not-so-small smattering of all the random things that I stumbled on while doing my civic duty to find the end of the Internet:
1) DCR on ChaseTheSummit LiveStream: Just a heads up I’ll be doing a livestream with Dave of ChaseTheSummit, chatting about all sorts of things from wearable tech to behind the scenes geekery. You can click below and hit the bell to be notified. The livestream is this Thursday at 5PM US Eastern Time/10PM Central European Time.
4) Doping Tests are Returning, but it Might Be Too Late: The article dives into how COVID-19 has created a vacuum with respect to doping tests, which normally occur continuously for professional athletes, including out of competition testing to detect training related doping (which can then benefit racing).
5) Canyon Bicycles up for sale: And, from what appears to be roughly the same investment group compilation that recently took a $500M stake in Zwift. No surprise here, Canyon is set for huge growth if they can figure out logistics (and competitive pricing) for countries outside of Europe. As a two-time Canyon buyer now (road and mountain), I’d happily buy another frame given I live here in Europe. But looking at US pricing, it’s just a non-starter.
6) Impact of COVD-19 on Professional Athletes: A study by Stanford University with Strava takes a look at all the stats and data. This includes everything like changes to pace or HR intensity levels, as well as mental related aspects.
7) Peak Design’s new bike mount system: I like the looks of it. I’m a big Quadlock buyer/user, but I appreciate that I don’t have to rotate this. CyclingTips has a good hands-on look too. And based on what I see here, I like it a lot – including the mini-tripod concept. Though, two thoughts. First, I’m simply not joining a Kickstarter for something that I don’t get till next May (best case scenario). Second, this is super similar to the concept that I tested two years ago from another crowd-funded company, SwitchLok. I validated they didn’t license the IP from SwitchLok, so will be interesting to see how that shakes out. Still, I’ll likely be a buyer for it once it reaches retail.
Sports Tech Device Firmware Updates This Week:
Each week I quickly highlight some of the new firmware, app, software, and website service updates that I see go out. If you’re a sports technology company and release an update – shoot me a quick note (just one-liners are perfect, or Tweet it at me is even better) and I’ll make mention of it here. If I don’t know about it, I won’t be able to post about it. Sound good? Oh – and if you want to get a head start on things, this page is a great resource for watching Garmin, Wahoo, Polar, and a few other firmware updates.
Garmin MARQ Series Firmware Update: Massive pile of new features including track mode, daily suggested workouts, improved recovery time, and a boatload more things.
The frame/bike selection (limited mostly to higher end units), availability (often long wait times), and prices are waaaaay higher than here in Europe.
Just picking a totally random category for fun – ebikes. Crack open the European site (pick a country, in my case, the Netherlands), and then open another page for the US. There’s two options in the US, 7 in Europe. But that’s just a quick one. You can do it for countless sections/frames.
Their value proposition is not as strong defenetly. Usually save around $200/300 over a simirlarly equipped Trek. Without shop support. Having said that I bought one…
It’s very convenient from a “stop – take a picture – continue riding” perspective. Way better than a phone in a jersey pocket. And the phone doesn’t end up all sweaty.
Consider that urged scratched after you’ve seen Hambini’s review of a canyon bike.
I’ve been one of their earliest customers in the end of the 90s, the company has not digested the growth well.
Steve Fleck mentioned the “coming soon!” announcement for Canyon in Canada during Lionel Sanders’ Canadian Hour Record attempt broadcast, and that it was indeed delayed due to Covid. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how the selection/prices are like Ray has been pointing out for the US (if it’s bad for the US I can’t imagine how bad it will be for Canada though! lol/cry).
I do, but logistically it’s challenging right now. I’d want to go somewhere I can actually shoot in clear waters to be able to see stuff better underwater, and realistically everything is locked down right now.
In the past I’ve gone to NEMO33 not to far from here in Belgium. But the border is currently closed from here to there (and vice versa).
I have been waiting for this watch for a while. Given the fact that I won’t have any SCUBA trips any time soon I guess I can wait a bit longer for the DCR review !
I’m in the same boat (pun not intended). Thanks Ray for letting us know your plans. I guess there are at least two of us waiting on your review. There is absolutely no rush though.
Bad luck I didn’t read it earlier, Nemo33 was open up to a couple of days ago. They had to close like all other pools because of new rules. I do understand it isn’t always easy to follow, but the border hasn’t been closed since it was opened in July and there have been multiple announcements they won’t close it again.
Depending on how you look at it you could even have crossed the border when it was actually closed, work related trips were allowed as long as you had an official paper delivered by the company..
The border isn’t closed per se, but it’s practically closed since Belgium is on the list of countries I’d have to self-quarantine for 10 days upon arrival back in the Netherlands. Which isn’t super practical when you’ve got three kids. Well, it’s not super practical whether you have three kids or not, but it’s a non-starter at this point, and realistically doesn’t really help the whole world situation for potentially either country based on the numbers here in Oct/Nov.
However, there’s a very similiar EU unit here: link to amzn.to – I’ve also got that one. Essentially the same for trainer usage. Also has a daisy-chain option if you wanted to do multiple.
Both work great. Full head to head (vs Wahoo Headwind) on deck.
So, it looks like F935 is completely abandoned with issues with elevate and OSW.
Garmin is a crap. It makes me mad, I really hate this company for so many not resolved bugs, but in other hand I quite can’t see alternative.
It’s a wash to be honest (assuming not talking TICKR X). The newer TICKR and Garmin strap both support dual BLE alongside ANT+. Neither supports data offloading or such, only Garmin’s HRM-PRO or Wahoo’s TICKR X.
I would buy the Garmin HRM Dual. The Wahoo Tickr does not have accurate R-R data over ANT+. see link to help.elitehrv.com
I’ve seen it screw up my garmin stress tests and in theory it should also mess with your Training Effect metrics but I haven’t verified that yet. It’s an issue if you have to pair your strap over BLE to something else like an iPad for zwift and then can only use ant+ for your garmin.
Are there any smart devices out there that I can use as a dimmer for my Lasko fan? I know I could get off my bike and change the settings on the fan 3 feet away, but I’m a lazy triathlete
Also some good news for current Forerunner users (minus the 645).
Garmin-Brooks 3 days ago
Just wanted to get this update out there as there have been understandably a lot of questions about the sleep widget and when it is coming back. While preparing to release our new on-device sleep algorithm on Forerunner devices we found that some beta testers had more accurate results on the previous versions. As a result, we have removed the feature to further review results so our customers can ultimately have the best sleep algorithm experience. We are actively testing and verifying the algorithm on a wider audience and hope to release a public beta in the coming months. Thank you all for your patience as we continue to make improvements and listen to your feedback.
I’m curious how much cheaper Canyon bikes are than the US?
I didn’t realize there was a difference, and could never understand the value proposition (for the US).
On a per-model basis they’re usually only about 10% cheaper in the EU.
But…that hides the real story: Only the most expensive models are available in the US, whereas the EU has models at every price point, and most of the best deals are not the $7K super-bike levels, but rather the $1-3K price bucket.
And adding to that, Canyon EU almost always has sales/clearance on last years models (seemingly all year), which are even better deals. Again, rarely in the US.
There is apparently a study underway to determine EPO efficacy for Covid 19 treatment, so somebody is going to be cheeky enough to “borrow” a positive swab and try for a TUE.
Was a bit surprised by the Fenix 6 software update on my run this weekend! Surprised in a good way. I took advantage of the “suggested workout” because why not…and I was happy to see that you could toggle based on time as well as HR.
Curious if this will get pushed down to the other models – Fenix 5, Vivo, etc.
When the suggested workout pops up, click the “GO” (top right button), and rather than immediately selecting “Do Workout” scroll down the menu to “Target Type” – this will give you the option of HR or Pace!
Love all the reviews. Sorry to say Garmin has not yet offered one feature it probably should and could without much effort. Namely – when one is cycling, the Garmin should be able to give “lap” alerts (sound and shake) every 2 miles or so, saying 17.1 mph or whatever the lap pace was. Also, when swimming in open water, the Garmin should be able to give at alert every 500 yards or so saying 2:00 minutes per 100 yards, or whatever the lap pace was. Like that feature for running with my 620, could use the same real time performance update when cycling & swimming. Thanks for seeing what can be done. My wife has a 920xt which could use the upgrade the most.
I’m puzzled – are you saying that you are not able to set autolaps for cycling or swimming in the same way you can for running? Or is it that you can’t set custom data there?
For the first, any unit that has a cycling mode has autolap for that mode, though the default is set to 5 miles so you might not spot it if you were only cycling short distances, and has a similar range of lap display settings to the run mode for that unit.
For swimming, generally the devices with a swim mode will count lengths in the pool, and auto lap by distance in open water.
Out of curiosity, I dug out my old 620 and, for cycling, you can definitely set a lap distance of 2 miles or many other values, and you can set either of the lap screen fields to show the lap pace, again among many other values. It doesn’t support swimming, so obviously no options there.
Yes, my goal for the 620 would be to keep my alerts at 1 mile (showing minutes per mile pace) while running, then also have alerts at 2 or 5 miles while cycling (showing average lap mph). Goal for the 920xt would be to also have swim alerts every 500 yards or so (minutes per hundred yards). Sorry to say alerts for rides and swims, along with run alerts, may not be feasible, Not sure alerts are 100% considerate of fellow athletes, but they do help me manage solo runs. Might check with Garmin tech support for their thoughts. Seems like it is a software upgrade vs hardware issue in either case. Thanks for tips.
I’m a bit confused Chris, Garmin has had autolap on swimming and cycling for years. Activity Settings > Laps > Auto Distance. Set it for whatever distance you want. Can display up to two data fields in the lap alert message. The 920 certainly has this.
Exactly. And as above, I have checked and the 620 definitely allows laps to be set for cycling, at a distance independent of that for running, with two data fields in the lap message that are also independent of those set for running.
They are not just feasible, they are part of the basic system and have been for many years.
Thanks, Dan & Dom! Have now reprogrammed my 620 to alert every 2 miles on the bike and let me know lap speed. If that is too much info, may scale back to every 5 miles. Also will get an alert after each hour of riding. Would like to get my average speed up for Ironman MD in 2021. Feedback while riding might help. Sorry to say did not realize 620 was so well set up for tracking cycling.
That’s great! I can see how it’s not as clear as it should be in the 620 – you have to switch to the activity you want to modify, then go into settings, which looks exactly the same apart from colour scheme whatever activity you are in. Newer watches you go into settings then select the activity you want to adjust, or do it when the activity is actually active and ready to record. Better from a UI point of view.
Got the 920xt to give alerts every 500 yards during swim – updated me on pace as swim unfolded, which was helpful. Both 920xt and 620 gave beeps at intervals on bike ride – every 2 miles seems better for me than every 5 miles. Ideally lap alert will say my speed over the last 2 miles (lap speed) vs average speed.
There is an updated firmware for the Saris Hx trainers (31.063, I think). It is not listed on their site (last updated Oct last year!), but I happened to check with the Saris app this morning.
Something about Bluetooth FTMS calibration, I forgot to take a screenshot.
DO you see Canyon getting with the picture anytime soon for the US market? I really really like the idea and look of their bikes, and your endorsement makes me more willing to drop the money.
But you’re right, it’s painful trying to find one and the reviews are less then stellar. How long do you forsee it taking before they get with the picture, or tighten up their US supplychain?
I don’t see them being meaningful in the US market until they can match the level of ‘Woah’ that’s present in the European market.
As for other reviews/etc, I can basically only speak for myself and my usage there. I love my road bike (now almost three years old). The singular exception to that being the @#$#@ 2#$@#$ @#$#@ derailleur hanger, which is such as worthless @#$@# of @#$#@ sh@#$@#.
Seriously, the stupid part breaks if the wind looks at it the wrong way. And it costs like $20/shot, so I always have 2 of them on-hand, especially when I travel. Lean the bike up against a park bench for a second and a strong wind blows it over onto the grass? New hanger. It’s funny, I even one time stumbled onto a DCR reader out riding in Spain at a turnaround with the same bike, that had just had their bike tip over while they were taking a picture, and had the hanger bend.
About the Fenix 6 firmware update:
“Improved Bluetooth stability and reliability.” No Garmin u did NOT, on the contrary I never had problems with bluetooth but now u f*cked with it and now I my earphones keep disconnecting! Same with other Garmin devices, when I first had my Garmin 530 I didn’t have any problems with it but after an update I kept loosing gps in forest area’s (so much that I had to use my Fenix 6 to keep going), also my Garmin Edge 530 is in for replacement as it had a blackscreen and can’t be fixed (and I’m not the only one with this problem).
Garmin has to stop with updates that f*ck up their own products, do more beta-testing before sending it to every device or let me choose to never update it (or let me downgrade it)!
I like the Peak Design mounting system and understand why it’s iPhone-centric, but just like with their new competitors (Quad Lock, etc.), I’m not going to trust a 3M adhesive to keep my expensive phone safe. And that’s with 3M adhesive being pretty much the best available.
I have fairly random question, Ray and I can’t find the answer anywhere online; I have a sense that you’ll know so hoping you see this.
Is there any way to change the x-axis on graphs in the Garmin Connect mobile app (iOS) to be by distance instead of time? Can’t seem to find the answer in the Garmin website or their forums and I have scoured the app to find if it’s possible but can’t locate it (I was hoping for some hidden features like a long-press on the x-axis or something but alas, nothing ?)
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Can you elaborate on what you mean about Canyon’s US prices? You think they’re not going to make money at that price, or that they’re too expensive?
The frame/bike selection (limited mostly to higher end units), availability (often long wait times), and prices are waaaaay higher than here in Europe.
Just picking a totally random category for fun – ebikes. Crack open the European site (pick a country, in my case, the Netherlands), and then open another page for the US. There’s two options in the US, 7 in Europe. But that’s just a quick one. You can do it for countless sections/frames.
The 530 is getting BLE sync support. Is this going to have any advantage? Maybe on battery life or reliability of the connection?
It’s purely for the Garmin Connect IQ app to use is my understanding.
Their value proposition is not as strong defenetly. Usually save around $200/300 over a simirlarly equipped Trek. Without shop support. Having said that I bought one…
Nothing provides a better pro feeling than a giant iphone mounted to handlebar.
It’s like red cars in Switzerland..
I don’t use it for a road/race bike. I use it for my everyday around town bikes. Works great for directions and such around the city.
That’s the main use case here.
It’s very convenient from a “stop – take a picture – continue riding” perspective. Way better than a phone in a jersey pocket. And the phone doesn’t end up all sweaty.
I still wish we could get Canyon Bikes in Canada. Its been promised for years.
Indeed.
They are coming to Canada in the spring. It would have been sooner but it has been delayed (most likely due to Covid)
link to canyon.com
Consider that urged scratched after you’ve seen Hambini’s review of a canyon bike.
I’ve been one of their earliest customers in the end of the 90s, the company has not digested the growth well.
Steve Fleck mentioned the “coming soon!” announcement for Canyon in Canada during Lionel Sanders’ Canadian Hour Record attempt broadcast, and that it was indeed delayed due to Covid. I guess we’ll have to wait and see how the selection/prices are like Ray has been pointing out for the US (if it’s bad for the US I can’t imagine how bad it will be for Canada though! lol/cry).
Hi Ray, any plans to review the Garmin Descent MK2?
Thanks.
I do, but logistically it’s challenging right now. I’d want to go somewhere I can actually shoot in clear waters to be able to see stuff better underwater, and realistically everything is locked down right now.
In the past I’ve gone to NEMO33 not to far from here in Belgium. But the border is currently closed from here to there (and vice versa).
I have been waiting for this watch for a while. Given the fact that I won’t have any SCUBA trips any time soon I guess I can wait a bit longer for the DCR review !
I’m in the same boat (pun not intended). Thanks Ray for letting us know your plans. I guess there are at least two of us waiting on your review. There is absolutely no rush though.
Bad luck I didn’t read it earlier, Nemo33 was open up to a couple of days ago. They had to close like all other pools because of new rules. I do understand it isn’t always easy to follow, but the border hasn’t been closed since it was opened in July and there have been multiple announcements they won’t close it again.
Depending on how you look at it you could even have crossed the border when it was actually closed, work related trips were allowed as long as you had an official paper delivered by the company..
The border isn’t closed per se, but it’s practically closed since Belgium is on the list of countries I’d have to self-quarantine for 10 days upon arrival back in the Netherlands. Which isn’t super practical when you’ve got three kids. Well, it’s not super practical whether you have three kids or not, but it’s a non-starter at this point, and realistically doesn’t really help the whole world situation for potentially either country based on the numbers here in Oct/Nov.
I guess you use the Lasko fan with a plug adapter? Or is there a European version of the fan?
The Laska, with a transfer.
However, there’s a very similiar EU unit here: link to amzn.to – I’ve also got that one. Essentially the same for trainer usage. Also has a daisy-chain option if you wanted to do multiple.
Both work great. Full head to head (vs Wahoo Headwind) on deck.
Seeing the live stream made me remember the podcast. Any plans to revive it? Maybe podcast 3.0 ??
Some revival at some point, just gotta figure out the logistics of it.
So, it looks like F935 is completely abandoned with issues with elevate and OSW.
Garmin is a crap. It makes me mad, I really hate this company for so many not resolved bugs, but in other hand I quite can’t see alternative.
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Hi Ray,
do you have any plans to review Withings ScanWatch? Would be interesting see how true their claims about medical-grade SpO2 sensor are.
I’m contemplating it. Just gotta get through a few other watches first.
Hi Ray, have you gotten through those other watches? :) Any plans for the Withings ScanWatch review?
Some of them, though, not all of them. Still have the Samsung to do… might be a bit late there.
Is the Scanwatch review still being contemplated?
At the $56 sale price would you buy the Garmin HRM Dual over a Wahoo Tickr ? Or does the Tickr still win?
It’s a wash to be honest (assuming not talking TICKR X). The newer TICKR and Garmin strap both support dual BLE alongside ANT+. Neither supports data offloading or such, only Garmin’s HRM-PRO or Wahoo’s TICKR X.
I would buy the Garmin HRM Dual. The Wahoo Tickr does not have accurate R-R data over ANT+. see link to help.elitehrv.com
I’ve seen it screw up my garmin stress tests and in theory it should also mess with your Training Effect metrics but I haven’t verified that yet. It’s an issue if you have to pair your strap over BLE to something else like an iPad for zwift and then can only use ant+ for your garmin.
If you’re using an HRV app, you’re connecting over BLE, so the Ant+ side of things is of little relevance
Are there any smart devices out there that I can use as a dimmer for my Lasko fan? I know I could get off my bike and change the settings on the fan 3 feet away, but I’m a lazy triathlete
Also some good news for current Forerunner users (minus the 645).
Garmin-Brooks 3 days ago
Just wanted to get this update out there as there have been understandably a lot of questions about the sleep widget and when it is coming back. While preparing to release our new on-device sleep algorithm on Forerunner devices we found that some beta testers had more accurate results on the previous versions. As a result, we have removed the feature to further review results so our customers can ultimately have the best sleep algorithm experience. We are actively testing and verifying the algorithm on a wider audience and hope to release a public beta in the coming months. Thank you all for your patience as we continue to make improvements and listen to your feedback.
https://forums.garmin.com/sports-fitness/running-multisport/f/forerunner-245-series/243376/forerunner-245-music-sw-5-20—live-to-100
Garmin FR945 Firmware Update: Essentially same as MARQ/Fenix 6.
same, same but different ;)
FR945 is still missing “on device sleep” Garmin employee says there is problem with it.
See comment in firmware thread.
Oh definitely. Sorry, I was referring to the change-log bits.
I’m curious how much cheaper Canyon bikes are than the US?
I didn’t realize there was a difference, and could never understand the value proposition (for the US).
On a per-model basis they’re usually only about 10% cheaper in the EU.
But…that hides the real story: Only the most expensive models are available in the US, whereas the EU has models at every price point, and most of the best deals are not the $7K super-bike levels, but rather the $1-3K price bucket.
And adding to that, Canyon EU almost always has sales/clearance on last years models (seemingly all year), which are even better deals. Again, rarely in the US.
There is apparently a study underway to determine EPO efficacy for Covid 19 treatment, so somebody is going to be cheeky enough to “borrow” a positive swab and try for a TUE.
Was a bit surprised by the Fenix 6 software update on my run this weekend! Surprised in a good way. I took advantage of the “suggested workout” because why not…and I was happy to see that you could toggle based on time as well as HR.
Curious if this will get pushed down to the other models – Fenix 5, Vivo, etc.
oh, I did not know that you can change suggested workouts to user HR. Where you can make this change? Thanks!
When the suggested workout pops up, click the “GO” (top right button), and rather than immediately selecting “Do Workout” scroll down the menu to “Target Type” – this will give you the option of HR or Pace!
Enjoy!
Love all the reviews. Sorry to say Garmin has not yet offered one feature it probably should and could without much effort. Namely – when one is cycling, the Garmin should be able to give “lap” alerts (sound and shake) every 2 miles or so, saying 17.1 mph or whatever the lap pace was. Also, when swimming in open water, the Garmin should be able to give at alert every 500 yards or so saying 2:00 minutes per 100 yards, or whatever the lap pace was. Like that feature for running with my 620, could use the same real time performance update when cycling & swimming. Thanks for seeing what can be done. My wife has a 920xt which could use the upgrade the most.
I’m puzzled – are you saying that you are not able to set autolaps for cycling or swimming in the same way you can for running? Or is it that you can’t set custom data there?
For the first, any unit that has a cycling mode has autolap for that mode, though the default is set to 5 miles so you might not spot it if you were only cycling short distances, and has a similar range of lap display settings to the run mode for that unit.
For swimming, generally the devices with a swim mode will count lengths in the pool, and auto lap by distance in open water.
Out of curiosity, I dug out my old 620 and, for cycling, you can definitely set a lap distance of 2 miles or many other values, and you can set either of the lap screen fields to show the lap pace, again among many other values. It doesn’t support swimming, so obviously no options there.
Yes, my goal for the 620 would be to keep my alerts at 1 mile (showing minutes per mile pace) while running, then also have alerts at 2 or 5 miles while cycling (showing average lap mph). Goal for the 920xt would be to also have swim alerts every 500 yards or so (minutes per hundred yards). Sorry to say alerts for rides and swims, along with run alerts, may not be feasible, Not sure alerts are 100% considerate of fellow athletes, but they do help me manage solo runs. Might check with Garmin tech support for their thoughts. Seems like it is a software upgrade vs hardware issue in either case. Thanks for tips.
I’m a bit confused Chris, Garmin has had autolap on swimming and cycling for years. Activity Settings > Laps > Auto Distance. Set it for whatever distance you want. Can display up to two data fields in the lap alert message. The 920 certainly has this.
Exactly. And as above, I have checked and the 620 definitely allows laps to be set for cycling, at a distance independent of that for running, with two data fields in the lap message that are also independent of those set for running.
They are not just feasible, they are part of the basic system and have been for many years.
Thanks, Dan & Dom! Have now reprogrammed my 620 to alert every 2 miles on the bike and let me know lap speed. If that is too much info, may scale back to every 5 miles. Also will get an alert after each hour of riding. Would like to get my average speed up for Ironman MD in 2021. Feedback while riding might help. Sorry to say did not realize 620 was so well set up for tracking cycling.
That’s great! I can see how it’s not as clear as it should be in the 620 – you have to switch to the activity you want to modify, then go into settings, which looks exactly the same apart from colour scheme whatever activity you are in. Newer watches you go into settings then select the activity you want to adjust, or do it when the activity is actually active and ready to record. Better from a UI point of view.
Got the 920xt to give alerts every 500 yards during swim – updated me on pace as swim unfolded, which was helpful. Both 920xt and 620 gave beeps at intervals on bike ride – every 2 miles seems better for me than every 5 miles. Ideally lap alert will say my speed over the last 2 miles (lap speed) vs average speed.
There is an updated firmware for the Saris Hx trainers (31.063, I think). It is not listed on their site (last updated Oct last year!), but I happened to check with the Saris app this morning.
Something about Bluetooth FTMS calibration, I forgot to take a screenshot.
DO you see Canyon getting with the picture anytime soon for the US market? I really really like the idea and look of their bikes, and your endorsement makes me more willing to drop the money.
But you’re right, it’s painful trying to find one and the reviews are less then stellar. How long do you forsee it taking before they get with the picture, or tighten up their US supplychain?
I don’t see them being meaningful in the US market until they can match the level of ‘Woah’ that’s present in the European market.
As for other reviews/etc, I can basically only speak for myself and my usage there. I love my road bike (now almost three years old). The singular exception to that being the @#$#@ 2#$@#$ @#$#@ derailleur hanger, which is such as worthless @#$@# of @#$#@ sh@#$@#.
Seriously, the stupid part breaks if the wind looks at it the wrong way. And it costs like $20/shot, so I always have 2 of them on-hand, especially when I travel. Lean the bike up against a park bench for a second and a strong wind blows it over onto the grass? New hanger. It’s funny, I even one time stumbled onto a DCR reader out riding in Spain at a turnaround with the same bike, that had just had their bike tip over while they were taking a picture, and had the hanger bend.
But…beyond that…I love everything else about it.
That seems like an alarming/expensive issue?! given the difficulty of US supply as is…
Makes me a little nervous to buy especially for a $3k+ bicycle…
About the Fenix 6 firmware update:
“Improved Bluetooth stability and reliability.” No Garmin u did NOT, on the contrary I never had problems with bluetooth but now u f*cked with it and now I my earphones keep disconnecting! Same with other Garmin devices, when I first had my Garmin 530 I didn’t have any problems with it but after an update I kept loosing gps in forest area’s (so much that I had to use my Fenix 6 to keep going), also my Garmin Edge 530 is in for replacement as it had a blackscreen and can’t be fixed (and I’m not the only one with this problem).
Garmin has to stop with updates that f*ck up their own products, do more beta-testing before sending it to every device or let me choose to never update it (or let me downgrade it)!
That seems like an alarming/expensive issue?! given the difficulty of US supply as is…
Makes me a little nervous to buy especially for a $3k+ bicycle…
I like the Peak Design mounting system and understand why it’s iPhone-centric, but just like with their new competitors (Quad Lock, etc.), I’m not going to trust a 3M adhesive to keep my expensive phone safe. And that’s with 3M adhesive being pretty much the best available.
I have fairly random question, Ray and I can’t find the answer anywhere online; I have a sense that you’ll know so hoping you see this.
Is there any way to change the x-axis on graphs in the Garmin Connect mobile app (iOS) to be by distance instead of time? Can’t seem to find the answer in the Garmin website or their forums and I have scoured the app to find if it’s possible but can’t locate it (I was hoping for some hidden features like a long-press on the x-axis or something but alas, nothing ?)