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Do the teams get to include the tracker weight as a part of the 6.8kg bike weight?
Yes, it is my understanding that they do indeed include the tracker in the bike’s weight when checking. But, for example, they won’t include the rider’s head unit.
Generally, it depends on whether the device is truly attached to the bike. One of the new Wahoo units has a screw that holds the head unit to the mount, which then means it counts towards the 6.8kg limit, but if something can be easily detached as with most head units, it doesn’t count.
The Wahoo BOLT can be bolted down. It comes in at meager 60g.
For reasons unknown they don’t use its mount, and therefore don’t actually do it.
Good to see additional players but certainly doesn’t look quite as pretty as the DD solution – and a mesh network to upload the data seems a much more robust method than just a basic cell connection.
My feeling, from watching the tracking data on the tdf last year, was that the presentation of the data was very poor. Patchy and inconsistent. On eurosport, for example, data like HR and power was given as a percentage IIRC (percentage of what ?) or a progress type bar. And some of the data was really suspect – speed bouncing all over the place. Lots of riders not participating meant it really wasn’t that interesting to watch.
Early days but it’s just as important delivering that data as it is gathering it.
early days
Any ideas where is Quarq with their Qollector concept ? Still can’t be bought in Europe and they seem to drop the ball on availability completely…
Thanks Ray!
I am very interested in the rider data and possible analytics in race situations, however the implementation and presentation of said data on TV is poor, very poor even.
Data is rarely actually live, often the data shown on screen is not from the part that the riders are shown to be on at the moment, rendering the information absolutely useless and uninteresting. (I want to know how much power rider x has to put out during that hill climb or during the intermediate sprint, or what the heartrate is after 30mins of climbing)
Some riders also (perhaps understandably) chose to share only some of the data, for example their heart rate and others not (and some simply are also not wearing any heart rate recording devices). And most frustratingly, there is to my knowledge no way of accessing even part of the shown data after the event.
So for now it is just a gimmick and a poorly implemented one.And as long as riders, again understandably so, won’t share their data freely it will remain a gimmick.
Now as for those on bike cams? they are very very cool, even 1 minute highlights were more than enough to make even non cyclist look them up. Shame the TDU fans are missing out on this.
Would it be possible in theory for TDF organisers etc to fill in the gaps with the type of mobile (as in moveable) cell towers used for festivals etc?
There’d presumably be nothing stopping them using a few each stage as required for the data tracking but any excess capacity could be used by the media, teams, spectators etc more widely so it could be a solution with wider benefits.
TdF organizer ASO, owns the right of the data provided from Dimension Data platform and they tried to push them through the broacaster to the large audience in order to change the way the bike world is perceived.
Unfortunately broadcaster lack of commercial percieved value of these data turned the volume of informations in asmall and flat tv infografic that doesn’t fit the fans enthusiastic expectation.
We have also to consider that ASO using the social media channels reached with the analytics from the platform a greater audience than prior the adoption of this solution.
Didata platform provide to ASO (TdF organizer) the contents covering the data with a mix of mesh wireless network connectivity with a strong predictive algorithm to increase the positional precision of the single riders for the whole Tour. To allow the data flows without or nearly without interruption it is necessary the presence of an helicopter that trasmit the data and run as the positional reference for the whole meshed network.
No GPS is needed as simon reported earlier.
If you want to deepen the technology behind the TdF you can take a glance to Didata TdF digital transformation minisite
link to www2.dimensiondata.com
I don’t understand why this device is soooo ugly. They spent millions for r&d but nothing for design.
It’s hard to find good people with a high conscientiousness. Which result in such flaws shrugged off with words like “good enough” or “didn’t consider this.” Fatal in the long run to a company if this is managers or engineers.
It’s definitely not hard to hire an artist or industrial designer.
But then, you can get ~500pcs+ electronics manufactured, assembled, and married with its case within a week or two these days, and they didn’t even manage that.
When I was watching the stage (#4) today, it was interesting to hear the commentators apologise for the lack of rider data and put the blame on the heat, not communications. That said, given how many other things Liggett and Sherwen get wrong during a race, they could have been off-base on this as well!
“thus all of that potential viral social media reach has been lost”
Yep!
Would this technology catch ” motors ” if all data went into a relational database per race. Conceptually it would be able to catch all deviations from norms because trends could be developed for each rider, no? Would this not make cheating that much harder combined with current methods?
Sagan’s K-Edge Bolt Mount does: link to velonews.com
What is Velon’s business model?
How are they making money?